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SBatL8y
09-11-2002, 12:26 PM
Now I know there was a thread similar to the one I am starting, so feel free to delete if you must.

I have a dilemma. I have only given head to one guy in my whole life. And he was my long-time boyfriend. Now I am seeing a guy who I would love to pleasure in the same way. But it has been two years and I am afraid I may have lost my touch. I want him to REALLY enjoy it because it pleases me to please him. Anyway.

I've been reading up on sites that explain certain "moves" if you will. There is the butterfly and the lollipop. I don't know if I need to explain them, but if you are a man who has experienced these, can you tell me if you enjoyed it? What would have made it better? I'm not scared or uncomfortable doing this, I just want him to really enjoy it. Any guys (or girls who know their man enjoyed them) have some good advice for me?

I already know that guys get turned on when the girl is enjoying it too, and when you look into their eyes. Anything else?

roadbikeguy13
09-11-2002, 12:30 PM
I like when she uses her hands as well as her mouth....a good mix guarantees a fun time.

Sirgey
09-11-2002, 02:16 PM
Make sure you dont leave out the 2 buddies, nothing beats a tounge on the underside of your sack ;)

SBatL8y
09-11-2002, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Sirgey
Make sure you dont leave out the 2 buddies, nothing beats a tounge on the underside of your sack ;)

That's part of the lollipop. Lick from the buttom-underneath, all the way to the top.

criptik28
09-11-2002, 03:03 PM
I hate to state the obvious...but you just gotta practice on your boyfriend. Different guys like different things, and while you may gain some good tips from adult videos, websites, friends, etc., you do need to see what he likes and what he doesn't. Are you guys comfortable talking about what feels good during the act?

SBatL8y
09-11-2002, 04:09 PM
criptik,
The thing is, he's not really my boyfriend. More like friends with benefits but becoming more serious. We've been friends for awhile now so he is special to me and I am now comfortable doing this. With most guys, I would not. Giving head is something that I save for only the special ones ;) if that makes sense.

Anyway, yes, I am pretty comfortable with talking about things we like. I'm sure without advice from others that he would enjoy it no matter what, I would just like to surprise him by it being EXTRA enjoyable.

Thanks though for the advice. I will try talking to him about it.

criptik28
09-11-2002, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by SBatL8y

Anyway, yes, I am pretty comfortable with talking about things we like. I'm sure without advice from others that he would enjoy it no matter what, I would just like to surprise him by it being EXTRA enjoyable.

Thanks though for the advice. I will try talking to him about it.

I think that would be best. I don't mean you have to stop all of a sudden, mid-act, and start a serious conversation. :) You can just take cues from him during, and change (or keep the same) things accordingly. If you guys are comfortable, he could also tell you what feels good (e.g. "keep going," "don't stop," etc.) or what could be a little different.

Definitely you could learn some things from reading articles, looking at videos/video clips, etc. In general, it's a good combination of kissing/licking and a rhythmic motion with the hands. I think I read somewhere that a blowjob is basically "a handjob with lips," and while it's not quite THAT simple, there's some truth to that. :)

Five Cent Deposit
09-11-2002, 05:31 PM
Count me as one of the guys who prefer hands-free action. And remember also that sometimes what you see in porno does not actually work the best. Porno blowjobs aren't quite as ridiculous as porno puss-eating, but a lot of what you see is done for a certain look rather than a certain sensation. Really, the best thing to do (IMO) is be willing to practice and learn from experience.

criptik28
09-11-2002, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Five Cent Deposit
Really, the best thing to do (IMO) is be willing to practice and learn from experience.

:up:

Jepthah
09-11-2002, 08:20 PM
The most nerves are on the underside of the head of the penis. So only go there with moderation, or when you're really zeroing in on things. :)

Use your hand, but avoid rapid jerking motions. I like it when the hand is gently placed around the shaft.

The tip of your tongue can be even more effective than the entire rest of it in many cases.

Vary the pressure with your mouth. Listen for audible signals and pay attention to movement, you'll do well. ;)

tenaciousdave
09-12-2002, 12:31 AM
36! Does that include me?

Spicollidriver1
09-12-2002, 05:40 AM
I was 37!

costanza187
09-12-2002, 05:51 AM
I wonder if the local community college teaches a class in this. :lol:

Big Quasimodo
09-12-2002, 06:34 AM
Looking into his eyes while you are doing the deed works as well in real life as it does in pron..................

waporvare
09-12-2002, 08:38 AM
I guess i'll help you with your problem and fly to Oregon so you can practice on me. I'm sure after a few hundred or so you'll be an expert. ;)

SBatL8y
09-12-2002, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by vapoRware
I guess i'll help you with your problem and fly to Oregon so you can practice on me. I'm sure after a few hundred or so you'll be an expert. ;)

Funny that you say that. I said in another post I was even thinking about contacting a really good guy friend of mine about maybe helping me out. I guess that sounds bad, but hey, a true friend would do it, right? ;)

Giles
09-12-2002, 03:37 PM
running your mouth along the shaft just below the head of the cock is also a great technique.

criptik28
09-12-2002, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by SBatL8y
Funny that you say that. I said in another post I was even thinking about contacting a really good guy friend of mine about maybe helping me out. I guess that sounds bad, but hey, a true friend would do it, right? ;)

Wow! :eek: You're serious, huh? :)

Giantrobo
09-12-2002, 06:40 PM
Every man is different. Just like Women want men to listen to them...WOMEN should listen to Men. Or else how will you know what feels good?

i.e. I DON'T like my balls touched for the most part. But many men do as stated above.

The area right uder the tip where the two ridges of the Glans(head) meet is nice to have stimulated. I have found that pushing down on the skin at the base so that the skin gets tight on the penis is really cool. It's like it makes the penis more sensitive. At certain points, concentrate on stimulating the head with the mouth and the shaft with your hand or even just the head with your hand if he'snot to sensitive.

Try having a bowl of ICE near...your cold mouth + his hot penis will drive him NUTS....Monica Lewisnky used MINT ALTOIDS to blow Clinton supposedly. Same effect with the literal freeze.

Don't be afraid to use you saliva for lubrication. Some guys get irritated on their penises when her mouth gets dry and it will help your hand slide along the shaft. Make it a good wet blowjob. :drool:

Ask him WHERE he wants to cum...seriously...this will drive him nuts. Don't be afraid to let him do it in your mouth, ...I mean that is much of the appeal. If you can't take it in the mouth at the very least let him do it ON YOUR FACE pornstyle. This is a reasonble compromise..jsut keep your eyes shut and... look out for jizz shot in your nose. Right TechiChick? ;)


If you really want to get into it, you 2 should do "69".

I find that if I 'm doing her good orally during "69", then she really gets into doing me and we have pleasure on both ends :up: :drool:

I hope some of this helps.

Giles
09-12-2002, 08:02 PM
and for my next trick.....

Cool Kitten
09-12-2002, 08:28 PM
Every guy is different in his preferences. You should really ask your partner how he likes to be done, and if he has any favorite things. I've been with a guy who could cum just from me applying pressure with my tongue, and a guy who needed me using hands in addition to my mouth.
Oh, and practice makes perfect :D
oh, and swallow ;)

Boot
09-12-2002, 08:29 PM
Try suddenly jamming a finger up his ass right in the middle of it. He'll love that. Make sure to let us know how it goes. :p

Buford T Pusser
09-12-2002, 10:51 PM
-other-

criptik28
09-12-2002, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Cool Kitten
Every guy is different in his preferences. You should really ask your partner how he likes to be done, and if he has any favorite things. I've been with a guy who could cum just from me applying pressure with my tongue, and a guy who needed me using hands in addition to my mouth.
Oh, and practice makes perfect :D
oh, and swallow ;)

:eek:

Getting very personal now, aren't we? :)

Buford T Pusser
09-12-2002, 11:33 PM
I say we all post a nice "Thanks for sharing." :)

cooper2000
09-12-2002, 11:45 PM
Grab the base of the penis and twist one way while your lips go the other.
Maybe simulate his anus a bit too at the same time.

That help?

Buford T Pusser
09-13-2002, 12:12 AM
It usually does. :)

Buford T Pusser
09-13-2002, 12:25 AM
Try this: http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0802/tongueturn.gif

He'll be glad you did. And if you're trying 69 ask him to do the same.

SBatL8y
09-13-2002, 09:56 AM
This is all very good advice. I know there are so many different ways to arouse a guy by oral sex. So knowing what kinds of things guys like will help out a lot. This way I can try different things on him and we can experiment. I am very comfortable talking to him about what he likes/dislikes. But now I atleast have some ideas of things that I can try, then we can go from there.

CK-Yes, I totally agree about swallowing. I've never done it before, but if I ever hit that moment, I sure wouldn't spit it back out. You're the one that caused it, might as well suck it down right? ;)

redscare24
09-13-2002, 05:12 PM
Eye Contact. Go with both hands and mouth and make eye contact. I think its awesome when a girl really gets into it.

jw2299
09-13-2002, 06:07 PM
For God's sake. You're more than willing to please him. Just the fact that you're giving him head will please him!!!

If you want to go the extra mile, just tell him you want to give him the best blowjob ever, but you need his help. He won't let you down. :thumbsup:

...Also, take time out to lick the balls. ;)

Giantrobo
09-13-2002, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by jw2299
For God's sake. You're more than willing to please him. Just the fact that you're giving him head will please him!!!

If you want to go the extra mile, just tell him you want to give him the best blowjob ever, but you need his help. He won't let you down. :thumbsup:

...Also, take time out to lick the balls. ;)


Yeah, but even that attitude isn't enough. I knew a chick just like this. The problem? She was like a guy where sex was involved. She didn't pay attention to what made me feel good and so getting head from her was more for her than me. it became a chore for me to get head. :eek: I actually hated hit when she went south....I would get bored real quick. I guess most women experience men who just like any touch down there and they think all men are like that.


We're not.

Jack Straw
09-15-2002, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Jepthah
The most nerves are on the underside of the head of the penis. So only go there with moderation, or when you're really zeroing in on things. :)

Use your hand, but avoid rapid jerking motions. I like it when the hand is gently placed around the shaft.

The tip of your tongue can be even more effective than the entire rest of it in many cases.

Vary the pressure with your mouth. Listen for audible signals and pay attention to movement, you'll do well. ;) I give you a "Standing-O" for your post Jepthah! Very well stated and exactly what I'd be looking for in a potential lover also.

Jack Straw
09-15-2002, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Giantrobo
Try having a bowl of ICE near...your cold mouth + his hot penis will drive him NUTS....Monica Lewisnky used MINT ALTOIDS to blow Clinton supposedly. Same effect with the literal freeze.

Don't be afraid to use you saliva for lubrication. Some guys get irritated on their penises when her mouth gets dry and it will help your hand slide along the shaft. Make it a good wet blowjob. :drool:

Ask him WHERE he wants to cum...seriously...this will drive him nuts. Don't be afraid to let him do it in your mouth, ...I mean that is much of the appeal. If you can't take it in the mouth at the very least let him do it ON YOUR FACE pornstyle. This is a reasonble compromise..jsut keep your eyes shut and... look out for jizz shot in your nose. Right TechiChick? ;)

If you really want to get into it, you 2 should do "69".

I find that if I 'm doing her good orally during "69", then she really gets into doing me and we have pleasure on both ends :up: :drool: Great post! :up:

caipirina
09-15-2002, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by cooper2000

Maybe simulate his anus a bit too at the same time.


how do you simulate an anus ?? :)


ok .. here my tip: twist your head a bit (tricky to explain) .. so that there is not only up and down friction ... but also sideways :)

I sometimes wish that one girl who gave me really good head would write a book about it :) I cannot explain what made her that good ..

P

grunter
09-16-2002, 02:54 PM
Three quick tips from the token gay man:

1) Go harder on the shaft than you think might be comfortable. The shaft of the penis is a lot more resilient to rubbing, squeezing and other vigorous motion than some partners might believe. Just make sure to avoid teeth-to-penis contact. That's a big "ouchie."

2) Go softer on the balls than you think might be comfortable. Reverse what I just said about the shaft when you're playing with the "boys." It takes a lot of practice for a man to get to the point where he not only can withstand, but get to love, the tantalizing sting that comes with "ball torture." Don't assume your man is already at that stage. Don't squeeze 'em. Don't rough-house them - unless he leads you in that direction specifically. Trust me - you'll know when he's ready for such things.

3) Don't be afraid to drool. The wetter, the better. Not just for lubrication's sake - but because it increases the "dirty" factor.

And as for anal stimulation, I'm a bit jaded in this area. Lightly fingering the outside of the anus might do it for some straight boys. But for me, it does next to nothing. Most guys are too afraid to ever touch their anuses for fear of discovering that that might somehow make them gay. Little do they know that if they can get past these personal inhibitions and reach inside maybe an inch or two to massage the prostate, the orgasms are probably 1000 times better.

Don't wanna find out? Then tell me, when was the last time you hit the headboard or wall above your head with a "shot?"

YMMV

;)

SBatL8y
09-16-2002, 03:14 PM
Thanks for all the responses. I still haven't given him oral sex yet, but I plan on it very soon. I was actually thinking about waking him up that way. He was telling me last night he's never been woken up by a girl giving him oral. But this morning he looked so peaceful sleeping. :)

Hopefully all these suggestions will help. It would be embarassing if he waited so long for this and then I didn't live up to what he was waiting for. Doesn't sound like I'll have a problem though with the way that guys in this thread have described it.

Thanks again.

(P.S. That doesn't mean this thread can come to an end, I would LOVE to hear more replies!)

waporvare
09-16-2002, 05:08 PM
I say screw giving him head to wake him up just shove your fist up his ass aka the grunter alarm.


;)

Giantrobo
09-16-2002, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by vapoRware
I say screw giving him head to wake him up just shove your fist up his ass aka the grunter alarm.


;)


:lol:

IC_Freeze
09-16-2002, 08:04 PM
lol, i dont know why you worry so much. all bjs are good just some are better. let me know if you need somebody to practive with :)

Buford T Pusser
09-16-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by SBatL8y
Thanks for all the responses. I still haven't given him oral sex yet, but I plan on it very soon. I was actually thinking about waking him up that way. He was telling me last night he's never been woken up by a girl giving him oral. But this morning he looked so peaceful sleeping. :)



There's a very good chance he needs to take a piss!

SBatL8y
09-17-2002, 04:43 PM
IC_Freeze - Thanks for the advice. And yes, I pretty much know he's already going to enjoy it either way. But that doesn't mean I don't want to be REALLY good at it and hear tips or personal experiences from others.

Buford - You're right, I never thought about it. Everyone (well, probably everyone) has to pee in the morning. That may not be a good idea now that I think about it..........

Giantrobo
09-17-2002, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Buford T Pusser
There's a very good chance he needs to take a piss!


Dude U ...suck!

You just ...blew his chance for a ...morning blow! Getting that idea in her... head


:lol: all puns intended

AndyCapps
09-17-2002, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Cool Kitten
Every guy is different in his preferences. You should really ask your partner how he likes to be done, and if he has any favorite things. I've been with a guy who could cum just from me applying pressure with my tongue, and a guy who needed me using hands in addition to my mouth.
Oh, and practice makes perfect :D
oh, and swallow ;)

:eek: Then there are the kind of guys who cum just from reading something like this.

kantonburg
10-12-2002, 11:04 PM
soooooooooo?

Did you?

seeyouauntie
10-14-2002, 04:26 PM
Most importantly, make sure you give him the courteiusy to blow his load on your face.

SBatL8y
01-27-2003, 12:40 PM
Update: Embarassing to say, still haven't done it. I don't know why either. I used to be totally comfortable with this kind of thing. I dated a guy for a long time a few years back, and ever since we broke up, it's like I built this wall up around me.

I think I'm just self-consious, or I have a major lack of confidence. I have this fear that he will not enjoy it. We're very close friends so we talk about everything, and he's told me about past girlfriends who he dreaded going down on him. So I just want to be REALLY good at it.

I think maybe I will definitely try the ice thing. Also, I think I'm going to do a little mixing. Like, part of it will just be experimenting and part of it will be asking what he wants me to do to him (in a sexual way of course). We'll see how it goes I guess.

Oh, and one thing I forgot to ask the guys. Do you tend to enjoy it when you're standing? Laying down? Sitting in a chair? Do you like your woman to kneel? Or to be on all fours while you lay on the bed?

Thanks!

CaptainMarvel
01-27-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by SBatL8y
Oh, and one thing I forgot to ask the guys. Do you tend to enjoy it when you're standing?
Yup.

Laying down?
Yup.
Sitting in a chair?
Yup.
Do you like your woman to kneel?
Yup.
Or to be on all fours while you lay on the bed?
Yup.

I think you're thinking about this too much. It's been 3 or 4 months now... even if you were only so-so starting out, you've missed out on almost a third of a year's worth of practice. You could train yourself to run a marathon in that amount of time.

IC_Freeze
01-27-2003, 01:07 PM
honestly, if you're having this much trouble, it's probably time to see a new guy.

damn_skippy
01-27-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by grunter

Don't wanna find out? Then tell me, when was the last time you hit the headboard or wall above your head with a "shot?"

YMMV

;)


Every night.

SBatL8y
01-27-2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by IC_Freeze
honestly, if you're having this much trouble, it's probably time to see a new guy.

Are you serious? There are way too many men in this world that get blamed in the relationship for problems that had nothing to do with him. There is no reason I should break it off with a guy for my own lack of confidence.

I've never been more comfortable with any other guy than this one. He eyes opened my eyes to a lot of things. We are actually just friends too. Best friends. Friends with benefits of course (since we are roommates). There is no other guy that I would rather please more than my best friend.

By own lack of confidence and self esteem should never be a reason to end it with a friend.

IC_Freeze
01-27-2003, 07:30 PM
Sbatl8y, let me put it this way.... you say you feel comfortable with him, 'more than any other guy', but yet you still struggle as to what I think is your quest to 'give the perfect blow job'. I didn't read the whole thread through but have you had sex with him yet? And why is it important that you have to give the perfect head job on the first try? You know like everything else, it takes refining, just like girls, most guys prefer things differently. Some like it when you suck really hard, some don't. some like it when you stroke real fast, some don't. There's no way anybody or even yourself can know unless you start doing it. Who's to say that when you finally do give him a head job, he won't blow his load within the first minute, all that time planning would seem to be a waste huh?

CaptainMarvel
01-27-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by IC_Freeze
Sbatl8y, let me put it this way.... you say you feel comfortable with him, 'more than any other guy', but yet you still struggle as to what I think is your quest to 'give the perfect blow job'. I didn't read the whole thread through but have you had sex with him yet? And why is it important that you have to give the perfect head job on the first try? You know like everything else, it takes refining, just like girls, most guys prefer things differently. Some like it when you suck really hard, some don't. some like it when you stroke real fast, some don't. There's no way anybody or even yourself can know unless you start doing it. Who's to say that when you finally do give him a head job, he won't blow his load within the first minute, all that time planning would seem to be a waste huh?

I actually agree with what you said here, but the logical follow up to it seems to be "Don't worry so much", not "Break up with the guy."

HitPlay
01-27-2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Big Quasimodo
Looking into his eyes while you are doing the deed works as well in real life as it does in pron..................

I hate that.

Maybe a glance or two up at the guy is cool, but don't stare at him unless you know he likes that.

happycamper
01-27-2003, 09:57 PM
If you've been hooking up with this guy the whole time here, you need to get over your 'confidence' issue and just do it. You couldn't be more prepared and honestly, I'm surprised that he hasn't gotten bored with your encounters.

I know you're 21...why not have a couple drinks before hand and loosen up. If you're still unsure about technique, watch some porn. But I think that you're over-preparing and the first time you should just stick to the basics. Try the ice and other tricks once you're more comfortable.

Just do it. The sooner you do it, the better off both of you will be.

joltaddict
01-27-2003, 10:21 PM
After 5 months of nada I dont think hell mind if its sloppy. Any BJ will be a present at this point.

SBatL8y
01-28-2003, 10:07 AM
Maybe the thing that's not understood here is that this guy is very special to me. He is one of my best friends and is also my roommate. We have the most awesome relationship. However, we are not boyfriend/girlfriend. He is going through a lot of changes in his life and I am still pretty young (I am 21, he is 28) and we don't want to screw-up this great friendship we have by dating.

I explained in my first post that I only like to give oral sex to people who are VERY special to me. For some reason I think oral sex is something very intimate that I am only comfortable doing with someone that I know pretty well. I think when I first posted this thread, I wasn't comfortable doing this with him.

I do appreciate all the help that you guys gave me, and you will be happy to know that I finally went through with it last night. And it was awesome. No ice was used (amazingly, we didn't have any) and I didn't stare into his face. He seemed to VERY much enjoy it and even told me it was the best one he's ever had (then again he could just be saying that, but who cares).

This will definitely be a re-occuring event. Thanks again for the help.

Nick Danger
01-28-2003, 10:47 AM
I'm glad you both enjoyed it. Have fun!

Since you're not doing it casually, it will change your relationship. Keep an eye on it, and make sure the changes move in a good direction.

SBatL8y
01-28-2003, 11:46 AM
One thing that I'm kind of dissapointed in is that I have my tongue pierced and he said he couldn't feel the difference between a pierced tongue and a non-pierced tongue. (I was the first to give him oral with a pierced tongue)

I've heard from many other men that women with their tongue pierced is very enjoyable.

Any women on this forum have their tongue pierced? Do your men seem to enjoy it more? Less? Or can they even tell the difference? Are there any special techniques you use with it?

I'm thinking with the whole ice concept, it will make the tongue piercing very cold, and maybe he will notice it then.

Sockmonkey
01-28-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by SBatL8y
One thing that I'm kind of dissapointed in is that I have my tongue pierced and he said he couldn't feel the difference between a pierced tongue and a non-pierced tongue. (I was the first to give him oral with a pierced tongue)

I've heard from many other men that women with their tongue pierced is very enjoyable.

Any women on this forum have their tongue pierced? Do your men seem to enjoy it more? Less? Or can they even tell the difference? Are there any special techniques you use with it?

I'm thinking with the whole ice concept, it will make the tongue piercing very cold, and maybe he will notice it then.

Although I've never had the experience with a pierced toungue, pretty much every one of my friends that has said it felt "the same" or "nothing special".

And good God, keep the ice away from my Johnson! -eek-

einTier
01-29-2003, 12:03 AM
The pierced tongue can feel very different, but you have to know exactly what you're doing with it.

I've only been with one girl who knew how to use it, and that was only a one time deal, so I don't know exactly what she did, but it seemed like she used a lot of pressure with her tongue, and her tongue was very "active".

Also, it helps if the piercing is up near the tip of the tongue. The ones further back are more for "show" than "go".

ignition
01-29-2003, 12:16 PM
Two words. Deep throat.

IC_Freeze
01-29-2003, 01:02 PM
good to hear batgirl :)
now, are you the swallow type or not?

SBatL8y
01-29-2003, 05:01 PM
Thanks Mr. Freeze :)
Yes, I would have swallowed if it got to that point. But since it was the first time doing that to him, I wanted to get mine too ;)