More TG Beauties

[Julie Walker]

The Lovely Anna
http://www.trannybitches.com/promo/2305/pi/01.jpg

I thought it was time for some more gender bending fun. Since I don't have time to post specific photos. I decided to just link to each womens galleries I found while surfing & this way it would load much faster unlike before. WARNING,do not view if at work or school. Over 18 only...then again you should know that by now if viewing the mature forum:)

http://www.trannybitches.com/promo/2305/tran1.html

http://www.trannybitches.com/promo/2305/tran1.html

http://www.trannyshemale.com/tgirl/006/trannystriptease_ah-me.html

http://www.redhotshemale.com/gals/playful6/vas24li.htm

http://www.trannypartygirls.com/promo/12/

http://www.trannybitches.com/promo/3005/tran.html

http://www.tranny-girls.com/gal/brazilian-transsexuals/marcela/indexagf.html



http://www.dirtytrannies.com/brazil/bt060r/

http://more-shemale-porn.com/sha7/sex2.html
59i/
http://www.onlinetranny.com/ts08he/tranny32.html

http://www.sexvideothumbs.com/shem058/she15.html

http://www.hunk4you.com/shemale/panty06/

http://www.shemantics.com/wildshemale/05/index.shtml?506910

http://www.transsexualpixs.com/hostte/0903/01/10/index.php?
413698

http://www.transfantasies.com/isandix/tbp2.html

http://www.shemalehardcoresex.com/tgp/18/shemale12.html

http://www4.kinghost.com/fetish/shml/trans2/hun.html

http://www.fetishsexorgy.com/tranny/25shemale_13sex.html

http://tour.shemalestrokers.com/anna/anna-m4.mpg Anna climaxs for the finale..& has as bigger dick than mine!

[Crocker Jarmen]

Interesting. But still not as hot as the Britney impersonator.

[Julie Walker]

Yes the Brittney impersonator was hot. Though Fracisca(#5 down the list with two more links) could give her a run for her money as they are equaly as gorgeous:)

On another interesting observation. Many people are viewing the thread,but none besides 1 so far have replied. That says alot:)

[jw2299]

Maybe some people are being courteous.

"If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

[bill_n_opus]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Yes the Brittney impersonator was hot. Though Fracisca(#5 down the list with two more links) could give her a run for her money as they are equaly as gorgeous:)

On another interesting observation. Many people are viewing the thread,but none besides 1 so far have replied. That says alot:)

What it said to me was:

"What are TG beauties?"

(clicks on thread)

"Oh ... ahhhh ... not interested, thanks"

That's all.

[devilpants]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
On another interesting observation. Many people are viewing the thread,but none besides 1 so far have replied. That says alot:)

Okay, here's my reply: I wouldn't hit it! :lol: -ohbfrank-

[Julie Walker]

For a thread no ones interested in. It sure has gotten alot of views since I last checked in.

I just find it interesting that a discussion is just dieing to be had,but people are afraid to reply worried about being seen in a thread like this,that the only replies I get other than the honest & intelligent first reply is that of immaturity or insecurity.

Again the silence says alot:)

Now if there is any closeted people out there. Don't be shy,who cares what others may think. Better to be seen & heard than sheltered in the closet As for the rest who just are not into it at all. Again no shame in learning about new things,since really when you get right down to it,we're the same as everyone else aside from the gender bending(which makes things less boring & more intersesting in the first place)....also it takes a real person to admit to finding someone attractive even if not in a sexual way(it's possible & normal afterall). Yet instead most choose to hide behind the facade of 'ewwww man..no way' to go along with the crowd.

As for those who may find themselves attracted to them & trying to hide it. Again better to be honest with yourself rather than lie to yourself. That only leads to major emotional/psychological problems.

Hmm I should do a report on this for college. Should be interesting indeed.

[zuffy]

That's because not many understood what TG mean.

[NYC Bi Cpl]

Yum
Some wonderful pics in there......only wish a few of them were here with us :-)

Thanks for posting Julie, we both enjoyed them

[Julie Walker]

Your very welcome:)

Hmmmm if I could get all those women together. I would not be able to not throw a lesbian orgy with them. It would be too tempting:) Though if you would like to join in,go right ahead!

Alittle spice always livens thins up,hence the threads existence..since the world is more diverse & beaituful than most people give it credit for.

So gay guys,if you want. Post some hot manly photos & thread discussions. That would be interesting & new to the board. Straight people,post whatever you want as usual. Trannies,again post stuff you are into & of course the lesbians post away..& that includes bi people too. Lets keep things interesting rather than boring.


I guess what I'm saying. Stop being so shy & living in a shell,live life for a change,you may actually enjoy it:)

Maybe the mature forum would become interesting & fum again, unlike reading the umteenth Brittney drool thread?

[AGuyNamedMike]

I know what TG means. I looked at the pics. Most of them are hot hot hot. I wouldn't hit one, though. I'm gay friendly, true, but I'm not down with the dick.

BTW, I'm not too down with Britney either, but I wouldn't say the [MATURE] forum is any less interesting or fun because of said threads.

Peace.

[MJKTool]

I sure didnt know what TG meant, thats why I came in here. Now that I see what it is..........see ya!

[MasterofDVD]

So there are 1202 views and we are to assume that a large number of those people didn't know what TG mean?

Most of the time I pass up on the beating Julie takes for his/her comments. I also think that a small group of people would rather just keep quiet than admit to enjoying the pics.

Some of those pics were cute and I can't believe a guy can hide stuff that well. The kind of stuff that bugs me is stuff like the recent Brittany double. If you have breasts and a package you need to advertise it and state it up front. Thinking that was a female dressed as Brittney was one thing but finding out if was a guy kinda pissed me off. I'll admit when I like something but don't try to pass yourself off as something you aren't.

I can appreciate all kinds of people as long as those people are honest and upfront.

[zuffy]

Let's look at the thread title "More TG Beauties." I don't know what TG is but I read more and beauties in a mature forum so my assumption is beautiful chicks or hot chicks. I click on one of the link and I saw penis, I'm outa here. I'd bet many had the same experience. It's just not my cup of tea. FWIW, I thought that Britney Spears impersonator is hot looking.

[Julie Walker]

One thing you should know is that most tgs ARE up front & honest about who/what they are if someone say tries to pick them up etc. I know I am & the same goes for all the woman I know. Yet if they are just walking down the street,browsing at the mall or whathaveyou. They do NOT need to let you know what they are. It's really as simple as that.

Of course getting angry about finding one attractive then finding out the truth does show abit of insecurity. Since you should easily just brush it off as 'big deal' or 'wow had me fooled' instead of "why you,dammit..i'm not a ***,how could you trick me like that.arghhhhhh' overreation most people have & always using the 'you should'nt be tricking people excuse' which is just as sadly pathetic & mornic as the 'she was asking for it' excuse guys use about rape or sexual assault victims. Thus learning about this is a good thing. Afterall,it's another aspect of life,not some joke like the media makes it out to be by only showing the negative side & ridiculous stereotypes.

Usually the only person who does have a problem is the person who makes a big stink about it when they could easilly brush it off & move on. Yet dwelling on being 'fooled' by a trannie & sometimes leading to murder proves they have some mental issues. Thus the only person to blame are themselves.

Probably the major issue over this is of course worries of ones own sexuality. Can it be possible to be attracted to a transsexual female who has male anatomy? Will that make them 'gay'? Will they like it? Will you hate it? etc etc all run through ones mind usually..& of course the ones who can't deal with the thought,usually resort to violence & murder to 'prove' themselves.

Interesting stuff to discuss & think about. That is how one becomes open minded & truely free.

[Crocker Jarmen]

Originally posted by Julie Walker

Usually the only person who does have a problem is the person who makes a big stink about it when they could easilly brush it off & move on. Yet dwelling on being 'fooled' by a trannie & sometimes leading to murder proves they have some mental issues. Thus the only person to blame are themselves.


I'd be careful throwing around accusations that some posters may take as personal. I know a few people who makes a big stink about transgenders, but would never be goaded onto violence because of it.

Originally posted by Julie Walker

Can it be possible to be attracted to a transsexual female who has male anatomy? Will that make them 'gay'? Will they like it? Will you hate it? etc etc all run through ones mind usually..& of course the ones who can't deal with the thought,usually resort to violence & murder to 'prove' themselves.


That reminds me of an SNL skit I saw a few years back. A Centur was being interviewed for a job, and the interviewer kept asking questions like "Could you have sex with a horse?"

"Well no. I'm a Centur. I'm attracted to other Centurs. To have sex with a horse would be beastility."

"What about if you saw a picture of just the bottom half of a horse? Could you get turned on?"

"Um... I suppose."

"So let's say you saw the bottom half of a horse, but the top covered up. Could you have sex with it not knowing for sure or not if it was a horse or another Centur?"

[Crocker Jarmen]

.... Goodness gracious, one of those embarassing double-posts. How did that happen?

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Probably the major issue over this is of course worries of ones own sexuality.

You just need to beat that horse dont you? Has anybody in this thread deserved a response like that or do you just NEED to continuously post that regardless of what direction a thread goes?

[El Scorcho]

Jolt, your horse beating metaphor clearly indicates you're not comfortable with your sexuality. Sounds like you're really into some seriously hideous chicks with dicks.

[Julie Walker]

Jolt,just a hypothetical question to think about. Yet looking at the mostly immature mocking,sarcasm laden childish replies. That seems to further my point on said person unable to seriouslly discuss this issue for one of probably many reasons.

If you get so offended & worked up over a simple question to think about. Well that seems to prove what I'm getting at & unless said person can seriouslly think it over & rationally & calmly discuss the issue securely(whether they like tgs or not). Then nothing will ever be solved & the result will be most of the replies here where you resort to childish backlash attacks in an condesending manner.


Of course when wondering why someone would get so worked up over it. It seems to further prove my point. Now if the person calmly did not get so defensive & worked up since they were secure with themselves & who they are. Thats fine with me & shows they truely are not afraid to seriouslly discuss various topics. Yet sexuality seems to be a big no no for society despite it's complex nature. Yet instead people would rather dumb it down & pretend anything outside what 'they' consider the 'norm' does not exist. When living in a shell that way,that only leads to further unrest at attempting to even contemplate the vast diversity of gender & sexuality. Hence the pure ignorance in the world & of course violent bashings among other things for daring to be yourself in a conformist world.

Also one other simple example of how to tell what you may or may not like. If you got wood,accept it & deal with yourself. If you did not,nothing to get worked up & defensive about.

Yet getting very defensive & of course playing the blame game of "Well you should'nt be like that" shows insecurity. Meanwhile a person calm & cool & knew what they are,would just move on if it was not there thing. Pretty simple solution that does not have to be that complicated to begin with.

[El Scorcho]

Julie Walker -- you're in no position to call anyone childish. In the past 17 months you've been on this board, you've continually played the childish role of criticizing anyone else's opinion (and sexuality) if that person happened to think your he-shes pics and friends were disgusting.

If you're into he-she's then that's great, more power to you. But to start personally criticizing the sexuality and comfort level of said sexuality for anybody that disagrees with you only makes you look like a complete and utter moron.

[Jackskeleton]

I really wish I knew that TG ment Trans gender before I opened this thread.

teaches me a lession in reading the thread before clicking the links.


:yack: :yack: :yack: :yack: :yack: :yack:

[Julie Walker]

El Scorcho,but you seem to overlook the fact that I never once specifically was speaking to or about any one person on this board/thread. When I say 'you',thats a figurative 'you' as in anyone out there,yet not directed at anyone specifically.

So the reactions do say alot,which should be something to think about. That is all.

[Bandoman]

I, for one, am thinking a lot about the reactions, because they do say a lot, especially when they say nothing at all, which is to say that they must not be secure enough to say what they feel, which means they cannot feel secure.

Or something.

[El Scorcho]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
El Scorcho,but you seem to overlook the fact that I never once specifically was speaking to or about any one person on this board/thread. When I say 'you',thats a figurative 'you' as in anyone out there,yet not directed at anyone specifically.

So the reactions do say alot,which should be something to think about. That is all.

Yes, reactions do say a lot -- that the general public thinks your little trannie he-shes are ugly as shit.

[Jackskeleton]

Whenever I see a fat chick in a thong I go :yack: this must mean that I'm not secure with myself because I find the bitch nasty...

[Bandoman]

I wonder why Julie Walker wants men who look like women? Not confident enough to just like men? I think that says a lot.

[big whoppa]

I admit some of them are good looking. But speaking personally, I'd prefer the bottom to match the top.

[Julie Walker]

Originally posted by Bandoman
I wonder why Julie Walker wants men who look like women? Not confident enough to just like men? I think that says a lot.

I find men attractive,so your putdown does not phase me.

Yet am more attracted to females & if they happen to have a dick. Well thats just another hot addition to an already gorgeous person/body:)

I can appreciate the diverse beauty in life which is a great thing...& far from boring.

[Julie Walker]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Whenever I see a fat chick in a thong I go :yack: this must mean that I'm not secure with myself because I find the bitch nasty...

No,theres a difference between attractive & disgusting looking(ie the fatty in thong example).

Yet when the one thing that really turns you off is the fact that a otherwise gorgeous stunning woman has a cock...& causes you to freak out,with the pukey smilely & so forth. Well that just goes with what I was stating earlier most likely.

Meanwhile Big Whoppa actually gave his opinion politely & calmy with no theatrics or overreaction like some people. Good answer & I respect that. That shows security in ones self.

[scottall]

Yet when the one thing that really turns you off is the fact that a otherwise gorgeous stunning woman has a cock...& causes you to freak out,with the pukey smilely & so forth.
This seems like an incredible oxymoron to me. I have been with a few beautiful women and NONE have had cocks. Personal preferecne I guess.

[Bandoman]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
I find men attractive,so your putdown does not phase me.

Yet am more attracted to females & if they happen to have a dick. Well thats just another hot addition to an already gorgeous person/body:)

I can appreciate the diverse beauty in life which is a great thing...& far from boring.

Fair enough. I have no problem with that.

You should have no problem with men who like only women, or women who like only men. You seem to think, however, that anyone who expresses a dislike for the pics you posted must be "protesting too much" or that they're somehow insecure in their sexuality.

[BigPete]

:down:

[zuffy]

Originally posted by Bandoman
You seem to think, however, that anyone who expresses a dislike for the pics you posted must be "protesting too much" or that they're somehow insecure in their sexuality.

Ditto :thumbsup:

[Julie Walker]

True,but I was just pointing out the extent of some reactions go to 'prove' themselves to not in anyway find the photos attractive in the least show a sign of insecurity. Just the same as if a guy freaked out by another guy finding him attractive or god forbid flirting with him & ends up violently reacting or acts really immaturely about it. Meanwhile Big Whoppas reaction to it was what a rational person would do "Sorry,not interested,I know what I like,sure looks alittle attractive,but does'nt do anything for me". No overdone theatrics or 'proving' himself. Since you know you are not into it sexually,no need to 'prove' yourself for fear of what others may think.

So there is a line between insecurity & maturity.

If someone I was not attracted to hit on me. I would not freak out & be rude. I would politely decline & move on. It's really that simple & a thing called manners.

+ knowing how people who react while lieing to themselves is like(being there myself at one time years ago). I'm more up front & always willing to ask the questions people would rather shy away from,since discussing sexuality has always been taught to be 'bad'..& being open about it is taboo. It's just another way of breaking through & being free spiritually & emotionally & interesting to see people get so worked up over it despite not speaking directly to or about them. Yet something struck a nerve & caused them to react the way they did since questioning sexuality & gender seems to be forbidden,despite the complex & diverse nature of that & human sexuality/attraction.

Just interesting stuff to think about afterall,which is better than not questioning things at all.

[Bust]

This is the stupidest thread I have ever read in my life. Count me among those who "viewed" it but had no idea what TG meant coming into it. Luckily I read a few posts before I clicked on any links so I didn't have to see the disgusting mutant chicks-with-dicks.

And believe me, being attracted to ONLY the opposite sex is not BORING. The fact you would imply that it is, I think really says a lot about how bored you really must be with your sexuality. According to your logic, anyway.

[Julie Walker]

Actually I don't find liking either the same or opposite sex only boring. What I do find boring is peoples close minded views on sexuality & assume that being straight is the only way. When you look at life that narrowly. It IS boring. Yet people who are free & open about sexuality & explore are not boring. That includes straight people who may explore various ways to have sex(toys,new postitions,forplay etc etc) & be turned on,rather than the same old same old time & again. That makes things unique,beautiful & interesting & always something to look forward to.

So you assuming I find heterosexuality boring are gravely mistaken.

Really conservative attitudes towards sex(regardless of orientation) is what is boring,as it turns it into a 'job' & something not to enjoy or look forward to.

[Bust]

I would say that "boring" can be and IS something different to everybody. Your trying to impose your standards for sexual excitement on the general population is not only insulting but downright ignorant.

It seems now that you're trying to back-pedal into saying that you only think people are boring that admit they are boring, which would be a ridiculous thing to say, becasue it "goes without saying".

[KenobiKid22]

Trannies, small fingers, smell like cabbage. Oh wait that's carnies. My bad Trannies are good.

[Giantrobo]

Color me Queer, I think I'm in Love :drool: Latin TG's :up:

http://www.trannypartygirls.com/promo/12/Franciscabath_02.jpg

Nice ass (http://more-shemale-porn.com/sha7/07.jpg)



I know the rest of you are <b>jerking off</b> to these picks while posting how digusted you are ;)

At least I'm HONEST :p

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
I was just pointing out the extent of some reactions go to 'prove' themselves to not in anyway find the photos attractive in the least show a sign of insecurity.

Im insecure because a dick is a dealbreaker? So is big feet for me, no matter how hot the chick. Now if I cant overlook big feet how do you think Im gonna be able to let a cock slide?

Youre WAY too quick to label everybody insecure.

[BigPete]

Originally posted by joltaddict
how do you think Im gonna be able to let a cock slide?

It's best to find your happy place and just wait it out (or so I hear).

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
No,theres a difference between attractive & disgusting looking(ie the fatty in thong example).

Yet when the one thing that really turns you off is the fact that a otherwise gorgeous stunning woman has a cock...& causes you to freak out,with the pukey smilely & so forth. Well that just goes with what I was stating earlier most likely.

Meanwhile Big Whoppa actually gave his opinion politely & calmy with no theatrics or overreaction like some people. Good answer & I respect that. That shows security in ones self.


the faces threw me off. they didn't look like women. Further more I'm not attracted to a pair of tits. if the face doesn't match, and in these TG's you can tell they have something up in there face, then it's not attractive. Fat chicks have big tits. just because they have all that titage doesn't mean I will find it hot unless the other factors come in.

[Julie Walker]

Originally posted by Giantrobo
Color me Queer, I think I'm in Love :drool: Latin TG's :up:

http://www.trannypartygirls.com/promo/12/Franciscabath_02.jpg

Nice ass (http://more-shemale-porn.com/sha7/07.jpg)



I know the rest of you are <b>jerking off</b> to these picks while posting how digusted you are ;)

At least I'm HONEST :p


Hehe,those two are my favorites. I had more photos of hot latin tgs,but they would'nt allow me to link.

Oh thanks for being honest as well,thats very cool & brave:)

[seven]

You know, I think there is some truth about what Julie says about people being afraid to post. I almost started a thread a few weeks ago on a similar topic, but decided not to because I didn't want to open myself up to tons of personal attacks.

What I was going to post was that I was watching some Rocco and Kelly video and a girl was sucking on a guy and it panned up his body and he had tits and looked like a woman (sort of). Well, my first reaction was "Ewwww, I'm not gay, so I don't want to see this. " Then, it occured to me that if he was just a normal guy it wouldn't bother me at all to watch. And, a girl-girl scene with a strap on isn't a big deal. So, what's the big deal?

I don't know, so I thought I might try to start a discussion on it to get other people's opinions, but I didn't want to start some flame war.

7

[jw2299]

I think Julie Walker needs therapy.

Soon.

The fact that you cannot accept other's opinions or beliefs says a lot more about you than it does about the people on the board who don't think men dressed as women are attractive.

That's something to think about.

And...I personally wasn't afraid to post anything when I clicked on this thread early on. I just wasn't thinking what TG meant. When I saw what it was, I exited the thread. I didn't post anything because I didn't have anything nice or relevant to say, and I try not to threadcrap. Many others probably did this as well.

[Mopower]

I didn't know what TG ment. So I came in and found out. Was turned off so I left. I guess that makes me a closet ****.

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Mopower
I didn't know what TG ment. So I came in and found out. Was turned off so I left. I guess that makes me a closet ****.

Either youre not being honest or youre insecure. Theres no other explaination.

[zuffy]

Originally posted by abintra
http://members.lycos.co.uk/asdfdsa213/index_files/stupid.gif

Looks like I'm not the only stupid one ;)

[Deftones]

Originally posted by Bust
This is the stupidest thread I have ever read in my life. Count me among those who "viewed" it but had no idea what TG meant coming into it. Luckily I read a few posts before I clicked on any links so I didn't have to see the disgusting mutant chicks-with-dicks.

And believe me, being attracted to ONLY the opposite sex is not BORING. The fact you would imply that it is, I think really says a lot about how bored you really must be with your sexuality. According to your logic, anyway.


Originally posted by Bust
I would say that "boring" can be and IS something different to everybody. Your trying to impose your standards for sexual excitement on the general population is not only insulting but downright ignorant.

It seems now that you're trying to back-pedal into saying that you only think people are boring that admit they are boring, which would be a ridiculous thing to say, becasue it "goes without saying".


bhaahahahhahah


as much as you and I disagree, this is some funny shit that I can agree with. :up:

[Julie Walker]

Jolt I do not need therapy & I never suggested any of you needed that either. Which puts the ignorance on your shoulders instead. Since you do not agree with a person,you assume they need therapy.

Now I tryed pointing out before on the 'boring' issue. I am not against personal beliefs,yet am criticial of attitudes of said beliefs.

It's pretty much been pointed out about the whole overreaction theatrics to show your disgust vs maturity & calmly minding your own business/not affected by what your not attracted to at all.

The film Jeffrey satirized this issue hilariouslly in one sequence. It shows two men kissing passionately,then it cuts to a theater of people viewing the film. Two women get all mushy smiling & say "Awwwwwwwwwwwwww",meanwhile the two men they are with look on in horror & say "AHHH SICK" or something to that affect & spit out there food. This reaction is true to real life. Why are women(most of them anyway) more ok with it than men who feel they must put on the show of 'EWWWW' to show there dislike of it,when they could maturely just ignore it?


It's these attitudes that I am questioning & in order to question. One must think deeply about how they react to said situations & that tells alot about the person. Does not mean they may be closeted(though alot of times it does) or whatever.

One reason for this reaction other than being taught your whole life that male homosexuallity(women lesbianism seems more accepting in fantasy,than real life..since the guys are mad they can't get in on the action & thus would prefer the woman to be at least bisexual) is not acceptable. Thus when faced with homosexuality. They feel the need to make it known they hate it,are not gay etc etc..+ they may be picturing themselves in the situation & can't handle that & of course go ape over the issue with aggression.

If one is accepting of there sexuality,know who they are,what they like & so forth. Then homosexuality would not bother them at all,if they got hit on(could politely turn them down),saw two guys/girls going at it in film or in real life. They would just move on,mind there own business & not be worried about it at all,since they know they are not gay,even if they were..at least they may feel more comfortable about coming out eventually.

Yet gay people do not freak out & overreact when they see heterosexuals kissing onscreen or in real life. So why do(mostly men) people freak out when seeing two people of the same sex kiss onscreen or in real life?

Thats the double standard attitude I'm questioning..but most people don't want to discuss or think about this stuff.

Of course this attitude also plays into the tg issue,since the gender line is blurred(& it's more prevalent than people want to know about)..& that may really trouble some people. When the simpliest & easiest thing to do,is look into your heart & see how you really feel about the issue/person. That would make everyone a better person rather than holding onto ignorant prejudices based on lies,misinformation & fear of something as harmless as same sex attraction.

The film The Crying Game was one of the rare films to honestly portray this dilema & has a good message in the end.

Yet the only comment I see when that was brought up is "I thought the women was hot,until we found out she was a man,now I hate the film & refuse to watch it!"(true comment posted somewhere on this forum).

[MJKTool]

Originally posted by Giantrobo
I know the rest of you are <b>jerking off</b> to these picks while posting how digusted you are ;)


uhmm....yeah :lol::lol:

[NCMojo]

OK, so here's my take: you know how sometimes when you were a kid at Christmas time, there'd be this one really big present sitting at the back of the tree, and you get interested and somewhat excited, and then when you open it up it's just a sweater from your grandmother???

That's my reaction to the TG pics. It's like, "yeah? yeah? Oh, she's got a dick. Oh, well."

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Jolt I do not need therapy & I never suggested any of you needed that either. Which puts the ignorance on your shoulders instead. Since you do not agree with a person,you assume they need therapy.

I think youre (once again) confused. Wrong poster. Reread the thread.


Originally posted by Julie Walker
Yet gay people do not freak out & overreact when they see So why do(mostly men) people freak out when seeing two people of the same sex kiss onscreen or in real life?

Thats the double standard attitude I'm questioning..but most people don't want to discuss or think about this stuff.

But thats not what you do. Even people say "Nope, not for me" you insist that they are either liars or homophobes.

[zuffy]

Damn, Julie is longwinded. I thought 5 cent deposit was bad.

[speedy1961]

Originally posted by Julie Walker

On another interesting observation. Many people are viewing the thread,but none besides 1 so far have replied. That says alot:)

Sorry that I'm late to the party Julie. What did I miss?

[speedy1961]

Originally posted by seven
You know, I think there is some truth about what Julie says about people being afraid to post. I almost started a thread a few weeks ago on a similar topic, but decided not to because I didn't want to open myself up to tons of personal attacks.

7

They really do attack here sometimes and I (for some reason) seem to understand both sides.

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by zuffy
Damn, Julie is longwinded. I thought 5 cent deposit was bad.


You should hear IT talk about censorship.

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by joltaddict

But thats not what you do. Even people say "Nope, not for me" you insist that they are either liars or homophobes.
perhaps he's a closet straight guy?

[Geofferson]

For the record, I knew what TG meant and came in this thread because I had a feeling it'd turn into an entertaining uproar of a thread...

...and I was right. :lol:

[MasterofDVD]

This thread just keeps getting worse and worse.

You know Julie.....I was on your side for a bit. Then you had to just keep on pushing people. I don't think people would have a problem with what you, and many other do. But you always seem to push these ideas on people and dissect what they say to such a fine degree.

Let it go. Seriously.

You've pushed so many people over the edge that soon even those in favor of your lifestyle will start to turn on you not because of the way you dress but because of how you act.

Since I haven't slept in a day and a half I sure hope this all makes sense.

[Julie Walker]

Well Master,I've kept it as civil as possible without resorting to name calling like some people...& just asking questions. Call it an endurance test of the psyche if you will,since some of the reactions are proof.

Questioning things is how your mind grows & attitudes can change,sometimes for the better.

So rather than suger coat over the issues & ignore them like most people. I challenge people to seriouslly look at the issues & think about them for a change..& come to your own conclusions.

Speaking of which. I've been in touch with this guy from Sweden & it is so surreal the attitudes to sexuality in general is regarded so normally over there. Not to mention network tv airs things uncut nudity,violence,language & all. All films are released uncensored & many other interesting things which are still 'too controversial'(homosexuality is general) here. Seems the U.S. is very conservative & years behind them. Heck,gay marriage is legal over there & looked at as normal(homophobia still exists of course,so for all you naysayers,you can still hate them if you want). Meanwhile people here act like gay marriage is the end of the world. Yet it's all based on lies & misinformation...& getting to the bottom of these irrational fears,can only be done with up front honest hard questions to make people think.

Most people don't like that,but I'm more of a tell it like it is person.

Maybe I should make a documentary on this issue? Hmm there is an idea.

[joltaddict]

That was just gibberish. :confused:

You see just as many puking smilies in most of the threads with real girls. Personal taste in whats attractive DOES NOT EQUAL HOMOPHOBIA.

[Demontooth]

I don't have a problem with gay marriage, why shouldn't gay people be just as miserable as the rest of us?

[Bushdog]

I'm coming into this late. I only want women who don't have dicks. What does that make me, Julie? I'm not calling you out, I'm trying to figure out what you're saying, but concisely.

[Bandoman]

Originally posted by Bushdog
I'm coming into this late. I only want women who don't have dicks. What does that make me, Julie? I'm not calling you out, I'm trying to figure out what you're saying, but concisely.

It means you are boring, not confident in your sexuality, and unwilling to see the real beauty in those around you. You must be a closet homosexual, because the very fact that you state that you don't like women with dicks means you must like them. P.D.Q.

[MasterofDVD]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Maybe I should make a documentary on this issue? Hmm there is an idea.


You mentioned earlier about writing a paper. I'm glad we are all for fascinating to you.

How about you just make 20 more threads beating this subject to death. That way you can be 100% sure about how we all feel on this subject. With all the times this argument has been started in the Mature forum I would think you have more than enough info by now.

I'm a real open person but I don't see any reason to spend ( waste ) my time pushing my ideals on other and over analyzing what they say in response to my comments.

The way you act on here annoys me far more than the way you dress or the company you keep. All your threads move in the same downward spiral. It's not healthy for the forum to have this going on all the time.

If you want people to accept you then accept them for how they are and maybe they will follow your lead. If not then don't pick apart their brain and try to reprogram them to agree with everything you say.

I'm not going to waste any more time or energy on this thread or the one destined to pop up in it's place a few days from not to discuss the same damn thing.

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by joltaddict
That was just gibberish. :confused:

You see just as many puking smilies in most of the threads with real girls. Personal taste in whats attractive DOES NOT EQUAL HOMOPHOBIA.

No no no jolt. those puking faces were actually there because of my fetish for sick disgusting things. I suppose this <s>man</s> <s>women</s> thing is right. I must be a flaming ****. Bring on the chicks with dicks that put mine to shame! in fact don't limit it to chicks with dicks. I want to see guys with snatches. nothing cures boredom in the bedroom better then having a dude with a hairy vagina to spicey things up in life right. cause without those strange fetishes of puke on chicks with dicks then it just wouldn't be healthy.. -rolleyes-

[Jackskeleton]

then again, why limit yourself to chicks with dicks where they are suppose to go? That's boring if you ask me. the real excitement is when you find chicks with dicks where dicks are not normally found. That's what you call a spicey meatball!

Just plug in the TT instead of the ## to check out this fine piece of ass. w00t w00t

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Now if you think that's nasty then you have to have some serious hang up's about old people. Living in denial are you? it's not just a river in egypt you know. Old people need love to and let me tell you, the more experience the better to kill that bedroom boredom!

Yeah!


<note, this is a sarcasitic remark, I in no way like the old folk sex. Not because I'm in denial, just cause it aint my bag beyatch. so get off these rocks>

[bill_n_opus]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton


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Yow, that made my day! :)

[Tom Banjo]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Maybe I should make a documentary on this issue? Hmm there is an idea.

In other words, an independent film about gay people?
:lol: There's a novel idea.

[Geofferson]

OMG Jack, you're killing me! rotfl

[kicker_of_elves]

Originally posted by bill_n_opus
What it said to me was:

"What are TG beauties?"

(clicks on thread)

"Oh ... ahhhh ... not interested, thanks"

That's all.

Yup what that guy said.

[maxfisher]

Originally posted by Julie Walker

Most people don't like that,but I'm more of a tell it like it is person.


Allow me to try to tell something "as it is". Here's an analogy. I hate bananas. I think they're disgusting. Banana creme pies, banana bread, banana pudding, banana whatever. If it's got bananas in it, I don't want any. Now let's say someone puts a bavarian creme doughnut in front of me. I f**king love bavarian creme doughnuts. I think they're great. Someone puts one in front of me with fresh chocolate icing dripping off it and my mouth is watering and my stomach is rumbling. Now let's say I pick it up and take a big bite out of it and it's full of banana creme instead of the regular filling. You know what I'd do? I'd probably gag. At a bare minimum, the rest of that f**king doughnut would go in the trash. "But you wanted it so bad when you didn't know it was banana!" Big f**king deal, I don't like bananas. "But it's just like a bavarian creme except for one tiny detail." Tiny or not, it makes a huge difference to me. And I'll tell you what, if someone got all up in my face about it and wouldn't let it drop, I'd think they were a world class loser for not just letting me have my own likes and dislikes.

Now change this from being about something you eat to something you f**k, an area I hope most people a little more discriminating in. Do you have some understanding where people are coming from now?

[zuffy]

Originally posted by maxfisher
Now change this from being about something you eat to something you f**k, an area I hope most people a little more discriminating in. Do you have some understanding where people are coming from now?

[Julie Walker]No. Bananas are boring.[/Julie Walker]

[El Scorcho]

I don't know about you but I could really go for a Bavarian Creme Tranny right about now.

[Julie Walker]

Max I get what your saying & it's been fun debating. Afterall,this was intended to open a discussion,though most decided they could not handle it & would rather be immature,hence Jolts hilarious breakdown earlier. Yours was more on the rational side,which is cool. Yet the real question is not whether you like whatever someone may have between their legs or not. Yet is it possible for you to ignore your preconcieved notions of what your attracted to & possibly find the person attractive regardless of what they may have between the legs?

So of course if you think a tranny is gorgeous & unaware of her being a tranny. Then find out & freak out,meanwhile still having an erection. Well the erection says it all,meanwhile your attitude would say otherwise & that of course points to insecurity. Now I'm not saying YOU(Max) are that way(remember the 'you' is figurative,an Example for those who mistake me for speaking directly about them!). This is a question posed for all the people who may have found one attracted at one time,still were turned on,but acted disgusted & put on the 'act' of disgust/machoness so no one would say anything. That is the question to think about if faced with this situation...& then truely know what you like or don't like.

So to put it simple. If you don't have an erection/some form of arousing curious thought after finding out about a hot tranny. Nothing to worry about. Meanwhile if you do find yourself turned on still & trying to lie to yourself. Then you will have to deal with it & come to terms eventually or be driven mad with misery.

So of course the question was poised for those who do find themselves turned on but lie to themselves about it with denial.



El Scorcho,I'm with ya,that sounds good about right now. Hmm better go call Francisca(gorgeous latin tgirl highlighted earlier) up:)

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Max I get what your saying & it's been fun debating. Afterall,this was intended to open a discussion,though most decided they could not handle it & would rather be immature,hence Jolts hilarious breakdown earlier. Yours was more on the rational side,which is cool.

How so? My analogy was actually more on point. If I see a hot girl and notice later on she has big feet its a deal breaker. Ive lost interest. Its a matter of taste. You have a persecution complex. Trust me, most people dont care.

[Oni$yphon]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Speaking of which. I've been in touch with this guy from Sweden & it is so surreal the attitudes to sexuality in general is regarded so normally over there. Not to mention network tv airs things uncut nudity,violence,language & all. All films are released uncensored & many other interesting things which are still 'too controversial'(homosexuality is general) here. Seems the U.S. is very conservative & years behind them. Heck,gay marriage is legal over there & looked at as normal(homophobia still exists of course,so for all you naysayers,you can still hate them if you want). Meanwhile people here act like gay marriage is the end of the world. Yet it's all based on lies & misinformation...& getting to the bottom of these irrational fears,can only be done with up front honest hard questions to make people think.


Oh I see, so if Sweden made the legal age of consent 12 then the rest of the world better follow behind them because we are clearly behind them and are just a bunch of right winged conservative nuts....That would basically follow the line of thinking that if Sweden jumped off a bridge than we oughta to because its the "in" thing to do.

I'm not even going to get into my beliefs on homosexuality but I just had to touch on the point that just because there seems to be the trendy thing these days doesn't mean everyone has to start frenching their favorite male friend. Some of us just don't like that sort of lifestyle and most of the people who preach homosexuality really need to take a look in the mirror about being "heterophobes".

[Julie Walker]

Actually Oni,most homosexuals are not 'heterophobes':) In fact many have many hetero friends. I know many & in fact am not disgusted & think "damn those heteros,how dare they!!" like some nuts do about homosexuality. So a flawed arguement there.


As usual,to counter attack you must use an exaggerated example of 'so if some country had 12 as the age of consent,guess we have to as well huh?'..which is pure nonsense. There is such a thing as common sense. Ever hear of that phrase?

Now being gay is not 'trendy'. Another ignorant & pathetic close minded/narrow view to attempt to deny that homosexuality is indeed a natural part of life. No one decides "Gee,i'm going to kiss this guy because it's the IN thing to do at the moment",they do that because maybe ummm they ARE gay & were gasp BORN gay. Thus in no way do they 'choose' to be gay. They ARE..& nothing will ever change that no matter how far into denial you push them with 'conversion therapy'.

Also there is nothing remotely harmful about homosexuality. Meanwhile pedophilia(which you were hinting at with the 12 thing) IS A HARMFUL thing. See the difference?

Surprised these bigots never stop to contemplate just how bad pedophilia is...& how harmless homosexuality(of consenting age,adults etc of course) really is.

How does a loving couple hurt anyone just because they happen to be of the same sex?

Meanwhile a person forcing themselves on an underage person IS a harmful & disgusting thing.

Thats why we need to get out asses out of the stone age(which many are living in on this issue) & into the REAL world rather than la la land.

Yet I see you would rather live in la la land. Yet if people would actually think & look clearly at these issues. They would see how patheticly stupid many peoples overzealous attitudes on them really are.

Again how does homosexuality hurt anyone...& please come up with a better excuse than the 'bible':)

[joltaddict]

Once again you ignore a direct question in favor of another aimless rant. Ill ask again, as directly as I can... WHY DO YOU KEEP SINGLING ME OUT?

I realize youre probally frustrated that the guys youre interested in cant overlook a minor thing like a penis but its not homophobia. Physical attraction is by its very nature discriminatory, unless you bang anything thats in front of you youre guilty of it too.

[AGuyNamedMike]

Julie, I am gay friendly. However, I am not Julie friendly. Many of the things you say are indeed true, many of them are not. If it really important to you, please stop hurting the cause of homosexual acceptance by trying to be a mouthpiece for it. You're sounding more like that nut Signorile used to, but much less credible or coherent.

[scottall]

You must not be gay friendly if you don't suck dick or take it up the ass. Either that or you're just insecure.

[AGuyNamedMike]

Originally posted by scottall
You must not be gay friendly if you don't suck dick or take it up the ass. Either that or you're just insecure.

:D

Oh wait, you're right, I must be a closet NAZI since I don't swing that way. Dang, no wonder I got along so well with all those nice old german people I met down in Argentina.

[MJKTool]

This thread is hilarious, as are the majority of "Julie's" threads.

[Oni$yphon]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Actually Oni,most homosexuals are not 'heterophobes':) In fact many have many hetero friends. I know many & in fact am not disgusted & think "damn those heteros,how dare they!!" like some nuts do about homosexuality. So a flawed arguement there.


As usual,to counter attack you must use an exaggerated example of 'so if some country had 12 as the age of consent,guess we have to as well huh?'..which is pure nonsense. There is such a thing as common sense. Ever hear of that phrase?

Now being gay is not 'trendy'. Another ignorant & pathetic close minded/narrow view to attempt to deny that homosexuality is indeed a natural part of life. No one decides "Gee,i'm going to kiss this guy because it's the IN thing to do at the moment",they do that because maybe ummm they ARE gay & were gasp BORN gay. Thus in no way do they 'choose' to be gay. They ARE..& nothing will ever change that no matter how far into denial you push them with 'conversion therapy'.

Also there is nothing remotely harmful about homosexuality. Meanwhile pedophilia(which you were hinting at with the 12 thing) IS A HARMFUL thing. See the difference?

Surprised these bigots never stop to contemplate just how bad pedophilia is...& how harmless homosexuality(of consenting age,adults etc of course) really is.

How does a loving couple hurt anyone just because they happen to be of the same sex?

Meanwhile a person forcing themselves on an underage person IS a harmful & disgusting thing.

Thats why we need to get out asses out of the stone age(which many are living in on this issue) & into the REAL world rather than la la land.

Yet I see you would rather live in la la land. Yet if people would actually think & look clearly at these issues. They would see how patheticly stupid many peoples overzealous attitudes on them really are.

Again how does homosexuality hurt anyone...& please come up with a better excuse than the 'bible':)

Well lets try to do this your way.

Actually Julie most heterosexuals are not "homophobes", one with an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals, most heterosexuals just would prefer that they'd not be subject to the lifestyle. But I guess we all stereotype a group when we aren't part of it don't we?

Oh but wait...what if the 12 year old was consenting? Hmm? Does that make it right? If the consenting age was moved back than THAT would be the consenting age. You see how one thing leads to another?

Nothing harmful about homosexuality? Right young children seeing two men or women kissing each other won't harm their minds at a young age. That in a way would be showing them that it is "right" and don't you dare tell me that it is. Show me one case in nature of an organism reproducing or better yet even copulating with the same sex and then I'll concede my point. Until that day I feel you are wrong. Why won't this ever happen? It's not logical, there is no beneficial reason why to the promotion of the species...so that clearly is leading to the belief that it is nothing more than a disorder that has been accepted.

We're in the stone age because we don't wish to have a clearly dysfunctional syndrome becoming the status quo? The Greeks had no problem with homosexuality so that would actually be reverting back to a more primative state in which we only try to satisfy our hedonistic urges.

Now I understand that with intelligence **** sapiens have gained freedom to do things that they feel are "pleasurable" that doesn't mean those things are right. Some kids are bron with a dependency on certain drugs because what their mother was taking. That doesn't mean we as a society should shovel crack down their throats to satiate this need.

I'll end this with yes I have no problem with homosexual people, I have three friends who are gay and they know my feelings on the subject and understand our difference in opinons, however I do and believe I always will have a problem with the practice of homosexuality. If a nation's majority doesn't want to "open" themselves up to it just because a small nation in Europe does that is THEIR prerogative not a small group that feel they should be given certain rights because of their sexuality.

I guess my La La land is the planet earth...greetings! :wave:

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Oni$yphon
It's not logical, there is no beneficial reason why to the promotion of the species...so that clearly is leading to the belief that it is nothing more than a disorder that has been accepted.

We're in the stone age because we don't wish to have a clearly dysfunctional syndrome becoming the status quo?

This thread has officially devolved into a tard fight. -ohbfrank-

[joeblow69]

Originally posted by Oni$yphon

Nothing harmful about homosexuality? Right young children seeing two men or women kissing each other won't harm their minds at a young age. That in a way would be showing them that it is "right" and don't you dare tell me that it is.

Well, I don't know if Julie will dare, but I will. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HOMOSEXUALITY. There is NOTHING wrong with young children seeing two men or women kiss.

We are here to stay, so you just need to just get used to it. We will not be forced back into the closet by anyone, much less a Cool New Member such as yourself.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled TG bashing...

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by MJKTool
This thread is Pointless and an act of attention whoring, as are the majority of "Julie's" threads.


Fixed

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by joeblow69
We are here to stay, so you just need to just get used to it. We will not be forced back into the closet by anyone, much less a Cool New Member such as yourself.

Im about as comfortable with Oni$yphon speaking for us straight guys as Im sure you are with Julie representing gays.

[Real Estate Guy]

Ok, I'm not gonna get all philosophical here and just tell the truth - I'D BANG THE SH*T OUT OF ANY OF THOSE PICTURED HERE!! HOT HOT HOT!

On the same note though, I'd do it because they look like VERY hot females! I have never seen a TG in person that looked like this, so I think it's like fashion models and actresses - I love them on tv and movies, but I'd never get the chance to see one in person. If so, I'd hit it, but I'll have to settle for what's here instead! That said, the TG's I've seen all look like men wearing a dress, which to me is YUCK!

To Julie Walker - and please don't take this the wrong way, because I know you mean well - but I've seen your pics, and I think you fall into the category of the ones I've seen in person. Not at all convincing. Does that make me gay? I don't think so. If I were doing a TG, trust me, I'D MAKE SURE TO AVOID THE WEINER AT ALL COSTS!!

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Real Estate Guy
If I were doing a TG, trust me, I'D MAKE SURE TO AVOID THE WEINER AT ALL COSTS!!

Thats just not fair.

[Mopower]

Next week on Springer!!!..........

[Oni$yphon]

Originally posted by joltaddict
This thread has officially devolved into a tard fight. -ohbfrank-

Frank and Beans!!

:rolleyes:


Originally posted by joeblow69
Well, I don't know if Julie will dare, but I will. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HOMOSEXUALITY. There is NOTHING wrong with young children seeing two men or women kiss.

We are here to stay, so you just need to just get used to it. We will not be forced back into the closet by anyone, much less a Cool New Member such as yourself.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled TG bashing...

Um right...I don't think I need to get used to anything homosexuality has been found in humans for atleast a couple of millennia and it hasn't gotten any more prominent than it was then. It just is more known about due to the communications we have now (television, internet, etc.).

Ouch you got on me for being a "cool new member" that hurts alot..no really...

[Mopower]

Originally posted by Oni$yphon
Frank and Beans!!

:rolleyes:




Um right...I don't think I need to get used to anything homosexuality has been found in humans for atleast a couple of millennia and it hasn't gotten any more prominent than it was then. It just is more known about due to the communications we have now (television, internet, etc.).

Ouch you got on me for being a "cool new member" that hurts alot..no really...

Don't worry. Some people forget that just because your a "cool new member" doesn't mean you were born yesterday.

[joeblow69]

Originally posted by Oni$yphon

Um right...I don't think I need to get used to anything homosexuality has been found in humans for atleast a couple of millennia and it hasn't gotten any more prominent than it was then. It just is more known about due to the communications we have now (television, internet, etc.).

That doesn't make any sense. Whether or not there are more practicing homosexuals now then in the past is pretty much irrelevant. It is because of television and the internet that homosexuality is much more "pushed into the face" of those who have such problems with it. Which is why I say "Get used to it". We're only going to become more and more prominent.



Ouch you got on me for being a "cool new member" that hurts alot..no really...
I only mentioned it because it's obvious that you've missed out on the hundreds of gay threads we've had on this very subject. Otherwise, you'd already have seen the error in your ways and would have repented. :D

originally posted by JoltAddict
Im about as comfortable with Oni$yphon speaking for us straight guys as Im sure you are with Julie representing gays.
I don't get too upset with Julie's rants. There are little bits of truth in there, I think she just gets a little overemotional sometimes and starts going off on some weird tangents. In the end, I think she does mean well, though. Try to see if from her point of view. As a TG, she posts some pictures of other TGs, and gets a lot of nasty replies. I can see how she could interpet attacks on the pictures as attacks on her, which puts her in a defensive mode.

[Julie Walker]

Joe Blow,thanks for chiming in..& I would dare to say homosexuality IS normal & natural,but you beat me to it while I was at work:)

Oh yes I will admit,that when I feel strongly about something. I will get alittle emotional,hence the various types of replies. Just try & look past the 'emotional' part & do some thinking about it yourself & come to your own conclusions. Thats all I ask really.



As for the comments about my photos on my site going into the 'latter' catagory of non-passable tgs(or decent looking,but nowhere near fooling a person like some). Well as I pointed out elsewhere. My photos do not do how I appear in reality justice. The majority of people while I am out,mistake me for a real woman..& it is not until I tell them,that they realize what I am. The photos are very amaturish,thus not that good in terms of showing off my qualities. Yet just wait until I get into professional modeling & then you can see what real photos do for myself:)

They well at the very least be right up there with Francisca!


Though as for the comment before of the person sarcastically twisting my words around of "if you don't suck cock or take it in the ass,your not worthy" or some such thing. Here is a question to ponder.

How would you react if a woman wanted to use a dildo or strap on on yourself or even just fingering yourself? I've ran into plenty of woman who have told me their fantasies about doing this,yet can find no guys brave enough to do that. They fear any anal intercourse(unless they are doing it to the woman) on themselves as being 'gay'. Yet anal sex is not just a homosexual 'act'. Homosexuals can have sex in more ways than just anal sex. So why the fear over anal intercourse by a woman?

Stuff to question & think about:)


Oh & before I get any rude,nasty,mean spirited angry replies of "I would'nt let a woman **** me in the ass!" rants with no real reasons for their view. This reply was written in 100% calm rational emotionally neutral frame of mind:)

So think about the above question...& please get back to me with a thoughful reply.

[spainlinx0]

I have seen dogs hump other male dogs. Does that count as homosexuality in nature?

[Mopower]

Originally posted by spainlinx0
I have seen dogs hump other male dogs. Does that count as homosexuality in nature?


Yes but only because their hetero sex lives are so boring. They also do it just to show the other "gay" dogs that they aren't homophobic.

[Julie Walker]

Originally posted by Real Estate Guy
Ok, I'm not gonna get all philosophical here and just tell the truth - I'D BANG THE SH*T OUT OF ANY OF THOSE PICTURED HERE!! HOT HOT HOT!

On the same note though, I'd do it because they look like VERY hot females! If I were doing a TG, trust me, I'D MAKE SURE TO AVOID THE WEINER AT ALL COSTS!!


While it's great that you are honest here on one thing. The final comment is something to think about. Put yourself in the other persons shoes. How would you feel if they refused to pleasure you & only cared about getting themselves off while leaving you high & dry?

This is one complaint I get from many women on guys afraid to go down on a woman & eat her vagina out to pleasure her. They just get themselves off,stick it in,cum,pull out 'goodnight',meanwhile she still has not orgasmed or gotten any real pleasure!

How would you feel about if you were with a woman who forbid you to EVER stick your dick in her,she would not dare give you oral or jerk you off..since she found it 'icky'..but otherwise you could get each other off with no private parts contact?

I bet you would feel pissed off & hate the fact that you are not getting what you want right? So what about what the other person wants?

Well if with a TG who has the package. They would want some pleasure themselves & that means some jerking,oral,or even them ****ing you for a change so they can get off as much as you.


The key is pleasureing each other & thinking of the other person,rather than only yourself when having sex no matter your orientation/gender.

Yet many people(especially guys) seem to forget about that & only think about themselves & what they want.


Another thing to think about & something that would improve sex lives & intimacy of couples.

[scottall]

Though as for the comment before of the person sarcastically twisting my words around of "if you don't suck cock or take it in the ass,your not worthy" or some such thing. Here is a question to ponder. How would you react if a woman wanted to use a dildo or strap on on yourself or even just fingering yourself? I've ran into plenty of woman who have told me their fantasies about doing this,yet can find no guys brave enough to do that. They fear any anal intercourse(unless they are doing it to the woman) on themselves as being 'gay'. Yet anal sex is not just a homosexual 'act'. Homosexuals can have sex in more ways than just anal sex. So why the fear over anal intercourse by a woman?

Stuff to question & think about
I do not know why I am bothering but I think that you were referring to this sarcastic post
You must not be gay friendly if you don't suck dick or take it up the ass. Either that or you're just insecure.
that was in response to this post
Julie, I am gay friendly. However, I am not Julie friendly. Many of the things you say are indeed true, many of them are not. If it really important to you, please stop hurting the cause of homosexual acceptance by trying to be a mouthpiece for it. You're sounding more like that nut Signorile used to, but much less credible or coherent.
As you can see I did not twist any of your words. You said that every male must be turned on by your pictures and if they are not then they must be insecure and simply cannot admit to themselves that they were attracted to TG's-or chicks with dicks. This is inaccurate because a dick automatically turns me off, sorry might just be me. Others have said that they would like to be with some of the chicks with dicks that you posted, but I am not one of them. I am not trying to offend you with that term and I hope it does not because I had no idea what TG meant when I first entered this thread and I think chicks with dicks is much more accurate and does not confuse anyone. I also have no problem with homosexuality, but it is just not my thing. I am am a "live and let live" type person so I hope that you have someone that makes you happy. Now in response to your question about a woman wanting to use a strap-on on me, I can honestly say that I don' know what I would do in that situation. I have tried to initiate anal sex (giving not receiving) but was never dead set on it and therefore did not push it. Therefore nothing happened in the anal sex department so I am inexperienced in this area. I would not however think that it would be "gay" if a man did decide to let a woman (real woman-with vagina) use a strap-on on him, I am just not sure that I would be comfortable with this situation. I am just glad that you got away from the whole thing about if I was not attracted to chicks with dicks then I must be insecure, because that is not the case. I do not think that anyone minds you posting this as long you do not try to push it down anyone's throats with your comments. Resume with the religious right against Julie that was currently in progress.

[Oni$yphon]

Originally posted by spainlinx0
I have seen dogs hump other male dogs. Does that count as homosexuality in nature?

Those dogs would be domesticated I'm talking about dogs or any organism in nature. A domesticated dog will be bred and therefore the survival of the fittest no longer is adherent for its means of procreation.

Originally posted by joeblow69
That doesn't make any sense. Whether or not there are more practicing homosexuals now then in the past is pretty much irrelevant. It is because of television and the internet that homosexuality is much more "pushed into the face" of those who have such problems with it. Which is why I say "Get used to it". We're only going to become more and more prominent.


I only mentioned it because it's obvious that you've missed out on the hundreds of gay threads we've had on this very subject. Otherwise, you'd already have seen the error in your ways and would have repented. :D


First off I've been lurking for quite awhile, I've just had a too much things in my schedule to post... second off its something called not watching the shows...than knowing my friends and family aren't watching the shows...than their friends and families not watching the shows...you can see where this leads to. Right now most people find the "gay thing" to be amusing and funny entertainment (Old Real World episodes, queer eye for the straight guy, etc.). That doesn't mean we wish are kids to be homosexuals.

Like I said before just don't try to press onto me or any of my children, friends, or family that this lifestyle is "normal". You can do whatever you want in your life as long as it doesn't affect anyone else negatively.

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Oni$yphon
Those dogs would be domesticated I'm talking about dogs or any organism in nature. A domesticated dog will be bred and therefore the survival of the fittest no longer is adherent for its means of procreation.

And of course that doesnt apply at all to humans. Were still running from lions in the jungle. -rolleyes-

[spainlinx0]

Well there seems to be a book out now disputing your claim oni$yphon. I haven't read it, but it's called Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity.

I don't know anything about this site, but here is an article about the subject: http://www.homestead.com/gepsych/files/gay_animals.htm

[Oni$yphon]

Originally posted by joltaddict
And of course that doesnt apply at all to humans. Were still running from lions in the jungle. -rolleyes-

Did you even read what I posted or did you have a comeback set in the event I posted something along the lines of your "counter"?

Like I said earlier, it doesn't occur in nature because of the simple fact it would not be beneficial to the species survival however after reading spainlinx's insightful post I realize that I am very much in favor of this trend. It makes sense as seen with the reason why I have no problem with people hunting deer, it limits there numbers protecting their species from extinction, even though I figure we should just let em go extinct if they're that stupid. From what I see humans are reproducing rather quickly and its great to know nature still controls us and is helping to cap the population, as distasteful as it is. However with cloning and gene experimenting I'm sure we will teach nature a final lesson about not minding its own business and staying in the "wild"... -wink-

However just like with sickle cell anemia what happens when we no longer need this genetic disorder? Some countries around the world have already started taking care of the problem, i.e. China, it is a serious one and sooner or later people will have to realize that we have to either spread out from Earth or limit our amount of reproduction...but I digress...

P.S. I would be interested in seeing his references and sources for this theory, I couldn't find it on the actual webpage because it had no visible links so I can't really see it as viable information yet.

[Julie Walker]

Oni,curious to wonder if you actually only have sex in order to reproduce?

Since you & many others always use the 'homosexuality is unnatural since reproduction is the key to life!' excuse. Do you & everyone who believe this only have sex in order to reproduce.I doubt it:)

Heck you seem to overlook the fact that it IS possible for homosexuals to reproduce. There is such a thing as artifical insemination,or gasp 'heterosexual' sexual intercourse between a man & women in order to make a baby(rather than get sexually turned on etc). Oh yeah,adoption as well,with so many parents leaving their kids in the dust. What better solution than adoption?

So there is way for homosexuals to have kids & raise a family & many believe it or not do so. It's only people like yourself who keep trying to prevent that with the 'unnatural' excuse.

Also the 'hating' the 'homosexual act' but not the 'homosexual person' is another pathetic excuse people like yourself stick to.

Do homosexuals 'hate the heterosexual act' but like the 'heterosexual person'?

Nope,they don't freak out about heterosexual sex unlike how certain people view homosexual sex & can like the person themselves without worrying about heterosexual sex,unlike how some people worry about homosexual sex.

You can also bet that they will not freak out with disgust when viewing a heterosexual love scene,unlike how people would react to a homosexual love scene or simple kiss.

So you should think to yourself. Why is that?

Could it be,they are actually well rounded normal human beings like yourself & can each get along together peacefully,or would you rather use the delusional 'I don't hate you,just your sexual life' excuse?

[MJKTool]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
It's only people like yourself who keep trying to prevent that with the 'unnatural' excuse.

Man you might as well change your user name to circles, Julie because thats all you seem to be doing in this thread, running around in circles. Far be it for someone to disagree with you and have their own opinion on something. Stop trying to shove your agenda down peoples throat.

*waits for Walkers ten page long winded reply telling me Its something I should think about

[AGuyNamedMike]

I think I'm going to amble over to my buddy down the hall (who just happens to be shudder gay) and punch him in the arm. He'll go "Ow! What the hell did you do that for?" I'll tell him to ask Julie Walker.

J/K :D

By the way, you're no where near as entertaining as danol, or even Dalvin.

[joltaddict]

You see what happened there Julie? Youve thrown around the homophobe label so much that now that an actual homophobe is arguing with you you cant escalate. Youre the little tranny that cried wolf.

[big whoppa]

This thread is all over the place. Transgender porn. Perceptions of transgenders. Homosexuality. Homophobia.

This seems pointless to me. Most people already have established their beliefs on these topics.

[tenaciousdave]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Oni,curious to wonder if you actually only have sex in order to reproduce?

Since you & many others always use the 'homosexuality is unnatural since reproduction is the key to life!' excuse. Do you & everyone who believe this only have sex in order to reproduce.I doubt it:)

Heck you seem to overlook the fact that it IS possible for homosexuals to reproduce. There is such a thing as artifical insemination,or gasp 'heterosexual' sexual intercourse between a man & women in order to make a baby(rather than get sexually turned on etc). Oh yeah,adoption as well,with so many parents leaving their kids in the dust. What better solution than adoption?

So there is way for homosexuals to have kids & raise a family & many believe it or not do so. It's only people like yourself who keep trying to prevent that with the 'unnatural' excuse.


This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How the hell is artificial insemination or adoption natural? One of them even starts with ARTIFICIAL!

P.S. This is the best thread ever.

[Oni$yphon]

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Oni,curious to wonder if you actually only have sex in order to reproduce?

Since you & many others always use the 'homosexuality is unnatural since reproduction is the key to life!' excuse. Do you & everyone who believe this only have sex in order to reproduce.I doubt it:)

Heck you seem to overlook the fact that it IS possible for homosexuals to reproduce. There is such a thing as artifical insemination,or gasp 'heterosexual' sexual intercourse between a man & women in order to make a baby(rather than get sexually turned on etc). Oh yeah,adoption as well,with so many parents leaving their kids in the dust. What better solution than adoption?

So there is way for homosexuals to have kids & raise a family & many believe it or not do so. It's only people like yourself who keep trying to prevent that with the 'unnatural' excuse.

Also the 'hating' the 'homosexual act' but not the 'homosexual person' is another pathetic excuse people like yourself stick to.

Do homosexuals 'hate the heterosexual act' but like the 'heterosexual person'?

Nope,they don't freak out about heterosexual sex unlike how certain people view homosexual sex & can like the person themselves without worrying about heterosexual sex,unlike how some people worry about homosexual sex.

You can also bet that they will not freak out with disgust when viewing a heterosexual love scene,unlike how people would react to a homosexual love scene or simple kiss.

So you should think to yourself. Why is that?

Could it be,they are actually well rounded normal human beings like yourself & can each get along together peacefully,or would you rather use the delusional 'I don't hate you,just your sexual life' excuse?


The reason that sex is pleausreable is to encourage sexual reproduction...not for the sake of it. Evolution or god as you will never stated "Hey this is a great way to make organisms happy lets have em do it all the time with no purpose in mind!". I was looking at the argument about homosexuality through a scientific one because I thought it would carry more weight than one using religious evidence saying there are many different religions but there is only only one science (You know what I mean I'm not talking about geological science, biological science, astrological, etc. I mean that they are all have single ruling principles...like "a carbon atom has so many protons") that i know of.

HOMOSEXUALS aren't reproducing, a HOMOSEXUAL can reproduce. Two people of the same gender aren't "knocking boots", they have to use an artificial means of impregnation to produce offspring.

I think it will harm the kid to grow up seeing that two people of the same sex are married if he or she are heterosexual. As much as some homosexuals (I won't generalize) felt when growing up with heterosexual parents.

As for your question I wouldn't know if "homosexuals 'hate the heterosexual act' but like the 'heterosexual person'" because unlike what you appear to have accomplished I haven't the time or resources to ask them all. However I'm sure that some may be discontent that others can live a "normal" heterosexual life while they seem unable to be attracted to the opposite sex but like I said I haven't asked them all I'm just going off of what my gay friends and cousin have told me.

As for me freaking out...so if you saw a person screwing a sheep (OH NO EXTREME EXAMPLE, deal with it like you want me to deal with homosexuality it works both ways) then I would think of it as unnatural because even though this may result in less people being born and protecting the species from extinction me not having the disorder would follow the simple logic of what would make common sense. As in I knew how to put the square piece in the square hole as a child and not the circle hole.

As for your next question I would think that because they probably grew up with a heterosexual family and are used to seeing it and understand why such acts take place.

Um did I ever say we couldn't get along? I have friends who have different views as me to varying degrees however if "I like the person for their values and ethics" I don't see how some of their flaws should get in the way. I believe we can all live together peacefully in the world. Just accept my views and quit trying to tell me and others what YOU believe is acceptable and should be condoned.

[Julie Walker]

Actually kids growing up with same sex parents could & would be just as benifical as them being raised by opposite sex couples!

They would grow up more open minded & less prejudiced against homosexuality since it is normal to them. Which would then lead to less hatred in society as they grow up. As for the kids sexuality once they grow up? Straight or Gay,big deal. They won't feel 'wierd' if they are heterosexual & their parents homosexual,if gay,they will not feel ashamed to admit it. If you would actually meet some gay parent families. You would be surprised by this stuff. There is no "You must be gay like us!!!" imposing 'values' like some heterosexuals impose on there kids "Your gay..thats not right,we must correct that & make you right!"(as some really closed minded people react).

Of course some people just can not accept that(despite claiming "you do your thing,I'll do mine..& we'll live peacefully together") by doing their damndest to prevent gay couples from adopting/raising kids. Some who have had the kids together such as some lesbian couples for example even face the thread of their children being taken from them by overzealous 'do gooders' who just can't accept that a same sex couple could convieve,let alone raise a child. Of course this being taken away against their will only leads to more troubles for the child & probably more hatred instilled in them via forced conformity "Your parents are not normal,you are supposed to act this way...& be this way only & are never to see them again!".

Of course the 'do gooders' will use every paranoid stereotype in the book as to why gay couples should not raise children.

So don't even dare to attempt to mention pedophilia! Thats the other excuse besides procreation they use to get their way. As for your beasitiality example? Why not use a more realistic example? Who in their right mind would think that ****ing an animal was aok & should be legal? No one. You can bet your ass that if a gay person saw someone screwing an animal. They would react the same way in revulsion & disgust. Humans & animals do not mix sexually! Yet as usual,they have to stick with every stereotype & taboo known to man to try to pain the picture that homosexuality is pure evil & will lead to even more extreme things being 'ok'. Yet that is far from the truth & not even close to using common sense.

So once you take away all the stereotypes & lies. What do you have? The TRUTH!

The truth is kids can be raised the same with gay parents,as they can in heterosexual households.


Also the whole paranoid procreation excuse,which is always used as one reason to make it 'ok' to be against homosexuality. Like I asked before. Do you & everyone you know truely only have sex in order to reproduce? You seemed to run around the exact question(I did not ask for the information on why sex is pleasurable,I asked whether you truely only all the time 24/7 no questions ask have sex ONLY to reproduce?).

+ as some seemed to miss the point before with my examples of ways homosexuals can concieve or raise children. That was just pointing out that their are ways to reproduce no matter if the person is heterosexual or homosexual. So even if the entire world were homosexual. Society would not go extinct as the paranoid fear,since there are ways to reproduce!

So what other reasons should homosexuals not have the right to marry,raise or adopt kids,have the same rights as everyone else & not have to worry about being murdered because of their sexuality?

[Oni$yphon]

This is really going in circles man but whatever...

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Actually kids growing up with same sex parents could & would be just as benifical as them being raised by opposite sex couples!

They would grow up more open minded & less prejudiced against homosexuality since it is normal to them. Which would then lead to less hatred in society as they grow up. As for the kids sexuality once they grow up? Straight or Gay,big deal. They won't feel 'wierd' if they are heterosexual & their parents homosexual,if gay,they will not feel ashamed to admit it. If you would actually meet some gay parent families. You would be surprised by this stuff. There is no "You must be gay like us!!!" imposing 'values' like some heterosexuals impose on there kids "Your gay..thats not right,we must correct that & make you right!"(as some really closed minded people react).

-I'm not speaking for the entire heterosexual community like some would like to...So truthfully I can only say that most of the gay people I'm acquainted with have pretty accepting parents when they tell them of their feelings except with the older family members. I guess all heterosexuals aren't just a bunch of extreme right wing conservative dictators...

Now once again a kid growing up in a family that had two gay parents often would be put in a situation where he or she would feel uncomfortable around his parents in public and MAY feel the urge to act out what they are doing. You look to your parents as role models through dress, morals, relations, etc. so when your parents seem to be two guys you probably would grow up thinking thats the status quo.

Originally posted by Julie Walker
Of course some people just can not accept that(despite claiming "you do your thing,I'll do mine..& we'll live peacefully together") by doing their damndest to prevent gay couples from adopting/raising kids. Some who have had the kids together such as some lesbian couples for example even face the thread of their children being taken from them by overzealous 'do gooders' who just can't accept that a same sex couple could convieve,let alone raise a child. Of course this being taken away against their will only leads to more troubles for the child & probably more hatred instilled in them via forced conformity "Your parents are not normal,you are supposed to act this way...& be this way only & are never to see them again!".

-I like how you keep saying "parents" as if both parents were possibly the biological parents of the single child which of course would be impossible. Just admit that you had to seek heterosexual means to produce that kid...you have to deal with that fact no matter how much a gay couple may be in "love" with each other its not going to happen, naturally. I really like your sentence right here "who just can't accept that a same sex couple could convieve"...I know I personally can't accept that fact but if you have a video of the insemination happening internally I would be intrigued to see it from a purely scientific stand point of course...

Originally posted by Julie Walker
So don't even dare to attempt to mention pedophilia! Thats the other excuse besides procreation they use to get their way. As for your beasitiality example? Why not use a more realistic example? Who in their right mind would think that ****ing an animal was aok & should be legal? No one. You can bet your ass that if a gay person saw someone screwing an animal. They would react the same way in revulsion & disgust. Humans & animals do not mix sexually! Yet as usual,they have to stick with every stereotype & taboo known to man to try to pain the picture that homosexuality is pure evil & will lead to even more extreme things being 'ok'. Yet that is far from the truth & not even close to using common sense.

-Not only did I attempt it, I mentioned it as well. Hows it different? If they are both consenting then the only thing stoping it would be the law now wouldn't it? How is humans and animals not mixing sexually any different than two guys or women mixing sexually? Is it because it wasn't intended to be that way do you think, or is it only okay if you find it acceptable because of your lifestyle. When you let some things that aren't orthodox start to be acceptable what is to stop something else. Bestiality and pedophilia have been around just as long as homosexuality and I'm sure just as many people are arguring for it to be allowed as there are for homosexuality. See that's the thing your basically saying these two things are "sick and perverted" I'm saying homosexuality is "sick and perverted" what should make me change my mind on the subject? Your arguments are basically hollow every time I ask for an answer as to why "that is far from the truth & not even close to using common sense" there is never a straight answer.

All you are basing your opposition on is that at the core of this is that your lifestyle brings you "pleasure". Shit I might like to steal something but that doesn't mean I'm going to break into my neighbors house. I'm not "in the closet" cause I don't follow these urges, I would realize that I probably had a psychological disorder (kleptomania perhaps) and seek help for it.

Originally posted by Julie Walker
The truth is kids can be raised the same with gay parents,as they can in heterosexual households.

-Please show me some of this truth...really give me some sites hopefully however the sites you give me won't be extremely biased ones with the url beginning with www.gayrights.com/...because I'm sure they'll be standing from a neutral, unbiased viewpoint of the issue.


Originally posted by Julie Walker
Also the whole paranoid procreation excuse,which is always used as one reason to make it 'ok' to be against homosexuality. Like I asked before. Do you & everyone you know truely only have sex in order to reproduce? You seemed to run around the exact question(I did not ask for the information on why sex is pleasurable,I asked whether you truely only all the time 24/7 no questions ask have sex ONLY to reproduce?).

-Originally posted by Oni$yphon
The reason that sex is pleausreable is to encourage sexual reproduction...not for the sake of it.

-I was hoping that would clear up any misunderstandings but let me try to explain further...the reason why people enjoy sex and are horny is due to the urge to procreate. I didn't say that was the reason they always have sex but yes that is the reason why people are enable to enjoy. Any questions?

Originally posted by Julie Walker
+ as some seemed to miss the point before with my examples of ways homosexuals can concieve or raise children. That was just pointing out that their are ways to reproduce no matter if the person is heterosexual or homosexual. So even if the entire world were homosexual. Society would not go extinct as the paranoid fear,since there are ways to reproduce!

-Yeah so you admit that the only ways a homosexual can conceive a child is through a heterosexual interaction i.e. an egg cell being inseminated by a sperm cell. Thus if it wasn't for technology we as a human race would go extinct...or do you still disagree with me and think that a complete homosexual world would be perfect about 1600 CE/AD or further back.


Originally posted by Julie Walker
So what other reasons should homosexuals not have the right to marry,raise or adopt kids,have the same rights as everyone else & not have to worry about being murdered because of their sexuality?

-Answer the ones I posed first then I'll be happy to give you more... ;)

But as for the adoption I have less problem with them creating their own child through artificial insemination than with adoption. Adoption is not a right so if you do not meet the requirements that would be healthy for the child to live under then you definitely should not be allowed to take someonee else's child.

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Oni$yphon
This is really going in circles man but whatever...

Ya think?

[joeblow69]

You know Oni$yphon, if you really want to have a discussion about homosexuality, you should probably move it over to the main Other Forum. The (im)Mature Talk forum isn't really the best place to debate things like this, especially not in a thread about TG beauties. There are much more knowledgeable people on this subject in the main Other forum, so I'm sure someone there will be able to set you "straight". :brickwl:

[Julie Walker]

Exactly Joe:)

Now if you want to discuss TG Beauties,lets continue. If not. Later....until next time:)

[Oni$yphon]

Right, right...

I'll be passing on the TG discussion though...*shivers*

;)

[Giantrobo]

http://www.onlinesexguide.net/beautifultranny/at/14.html

[AGuyNamedMike]

Originally posted by Giantrobo
http://www.onlinesexguide.net/beautifultranny/at/14.html

Alright Robo! You actually went through with it? Good for you, though I'm surprised you didn't get your tits done bigger.


J/K :D

[nealsen]

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[WendyWilliams]

I am confused why this topic is under "GAY PORN TALK"??


Transsexual Porn and those who admire us is "STRAIGHT SPECIALITY".

::scratches head:::

[Houstondon]

I am confused why this topic is under "GAY PORN TALK"??


Transsexual Porn and those who admire us is "STRAIGHT SPECIALITY".

::scratches head:::

The thread hasn't had any substantive responses in almost five years but when all the threads were ported over from DT, they were split up according to wherever the overworked mod at the time (it was done almost overnight) thought they should go. My best guess off the top of my head would be that self definition aside, transgender/gay/bi material is probably considered closer to "gay" than straight since it involves men liking men. If there was enough response to warrant a separate forum for the subject, our editor would open one up (a possibility for the future) but considering how many people posted in the original thread were banned or sanctioned for hate speech/violation of the rules when this was an active topic, it is probably best served in this location for now.

As an aside, the original poster and others have been offered places on the review board to handle this kind of porn title, most still undecided due to work & school constraints. If you have any candidates for such a position, by all means have them send in an application to editor@xcritic.com with a sample review or two. I'm sure you'd rather someone "into" transgender porn review it than have me dig very deep into the past for that infamous "beer scale" I believe you found so offensive a very long time ago... :D

[WHARRO4U]

cool thanks