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Buford T Pusser
03-05-2004, 09:12 PM
Saw this article and thought I'd get everyone's opinion on this. If a guy gives you a BJ but you don't touch him does that make you gay?




GLORY BE

I live in a conservative Midwestern US town and decided to visit the local porn shop. When I saw that they had an arcade in the back I had to check it out. I bought a $3 cashless card and went in. It was all normal TV with 24 channels of porn so you can jack off in a little private booth, until I realized there was a three-inch hole in the side and there was another guy jacking off in the booth next door. This really surprised me. After a couple of minutes, the guy offered to give me a blow job, and even though I'm a straight male, being tempted by the porn in front of me and a free blow job, I ended up accepting. He gave me a great blow job and even swallowed. I left the place in utter disbelief of what had happened and very confused. I came back a few days later and to my surprise this sort of thing goes on nightly. Gay dudes who get off on giving blow jobs just give them without expecting one in return. Is it wrong that I enjoy getting a blow job from a guy while watching straight porn? Am I at risk of getting an STI from a blow job? WORRIED GUY

The most pressing problem I can see is that you are at risk for contracting some STIs, such as herpes. My guess, though, is that this isn't going to deter you from this recent and excellent discovery, and I can tell you that whoever is on the other end probably isn't going to take your dick in his mouth with a condom on it, but you can try, and you probably should.

I guess I would also worry about the local homophobes, but maybe that's just my narrow understanding of what happens in conservative, Midwestern US towns. Because you know, you can identify any way you want, but people do tend to label you according to what you do rather than who you think or know you are. Welcome to the fold, friend.


http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_03.04.04/plus/lovebites.html

MJKTool
03-05-2004, 09:21 PM
yes

The Cow
03-05-2004, 09:25 PM
yes

scottall
03-05-2004, 09:34 PM
Yes, but through a hole in a wall it would be easy to visualize a woman's mouth. Not that I've ever had this happen.

For some reason this reminds me of a Mr. Show skit.

big whoppa
03-05-2004, 09:35 PM
No, not necessarily.

Buford T Pusser
03-05-2004, 09:45 PM
Would picturing this woman help keep the Gay away?

http://domai.com/news/2004/03march-05/25-sabrina-2-.jpg

scottall
03-05-2004, 09:48 PM
Possibly, as long as I did not see who was on the other side of the hole.

SPiRAL
03-05-2004, 09:49 PM
Glory Hole.

NYC Bi Cpl
03-05-2004, 10:15 PM
Not at all

GMLSKIS
03-05-2004, 10:15 PM
You are so GAY !!!

sfsdfd
03-05-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by NYC Bi Cpl
Not at all
...says NYC Bi Cpl. :lol:

(edit) Just laughing at the thought of someone named "NYC Bi" putting forth a dissenting opinion on this issue, that's all.

- David Stein

Josh-da-man
03-05-2004, 11:13 PM
Okay... consider this:

You stick your penis through a glory hole and get a blowjob. BUT... you don't who was on the other end.

If it was a man that did the deed, but you don't know the sex of the blower, does that still make you gay?

Sort of like Scroediner's Cat. With a glory hole in the box.

Birrman54
03-05-2004, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Okay... consider this:

You stick your penis through a glory hole and get a blowjob. BUT... you don't who was on the other end.

If it was a man that did the deed, but you don't know the sex of the blower, does that still make you gay?

Sort of like Scroediner's Cat. With a glory hole in the box.

it was a man.

kind of like the "centaur" sketch on SNL with Walken.

"If you could have sex with just the horse end and it was guaranteed to be the best sex you've ever had, but you'd never know if it were a centaur or a horse, would you do it?"

"Well if I never would know, I guess I would"

"it was a horse"

birrman54

Charlie Goose
03-06-2004, 12:14 AM
I think using the term "give you the Gay" makes you gay.

Gayness aside, I would never stick my penis into any strange hole regardless of who is on the other side.

Giantrobo
03-06-2004, 12:49 AM
That's a freaky pic :eek:

POWERBOMB
03-06-2004, 04:35 AM
Knowing there was a guy on the other side of that hole makes you gay.

Watching another guy jack off while watching porn makes you gay.

Striking up a conversation while porn is on to a guy in another room via a hole makes you gay and a dumbass.

NYC Bi Cpl
03-06-2004, 09:56 AM
It's all about attractions and desires.

After this experience are you attracted to or desire another man? No? Then you aren't gay.

Enjoying the sensation is natural. It doesn't change your sexuality.

Note to sfs - I was wondering if anyone would comment on that :-)

TomOpus
03-06-2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Goose
Gayness aside, I would never stick my penis into any strange hole regardless of who is on the other side. :up:

WhoGirl
03-06-2004, 03:08 PM
This reminds me of a Dom Irrera skit from Dr. Katz.
(paraphrased.. couldn't find the original quote online.)

"I have a cat. Nice cat, but occassionally it'll kneed on my lap and kind of kneed on my balls and I'll get aroused from it. The thing is it's a male cat. That doesn't make me gay now, does it? "

Wannabe
03-06-2004, 05:28 PM
Outside of prison, yes. Inside prison, yes.

joltaddict
03-06-2004, 06:53 PM
Its only gay to give. The cock only knows warm and wet.

chente
03-06-2004, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Goose
Gayness aside, I would never stick my penis into any strange hole regardless of who is on the other side.

I'd be worried that someone would drive a hatpin through my penis trapping me. Ok, I gotta go home now.

broadwayblue
03-06-2004, 11:29 PM
but he asked a gay guy for a blowjob.

costanza187
03-07-2004, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Wannabe
Outside of prison, yes. Inside prison, yes.

rotfl

mookiemeister
03-07-2004, 05:29 PM
If you enjoy getting a BJ from a guy, then yes, you are gay. If you were forced into getting a BJ from a guy, then it's rape, and you are not gay.

monkeyboy
03-07-2004, 06:07 PM
I think if you stay aroused knowing a guy is blowing you, then you would, at the very least, have some serious homosexual tendencies. If you go back for more, then, uh, yes.

Lateralus
03-07-2004, 06:15 PM
Gay, Gay, Gay!

db27
03-07-2004, 06:54 PM
gay

whaaat
03-08-2004, 10:14 AM
Gay, and if you let a strange guy blow you without a condom, you also have a death wish.

QuiGonJosh
03-08-2004, 10:43 AM
this is the funniest damn thread ever!

mike45
03-08-2004, 11:47 AM
Gay

scottall
03-08-2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by whaaat
Gay, and if you let a strange guy blow you without a condom, you also have a death wish.
If I am going to let a guy blow me, it's definitely going to be without a condom.

mtucker
03-08-2004, 07:51 PM
not gay

brizz
03-09-2004, 10:21 AM
not gay.

gay is about a lot more than blow jobs....he didn't want a guy...he didn't suck a dick....he didn't kiss anyone, or fantasize about a man...he let some stranger suck his dick through a hole in the wall while watching straight porn. I'm not gay, and I'd never be able to do it regardless of who was on the other end, but there's no way that it all of a sudden makes him gay. that's just silliness. I'd put it in the "experimental thrill" category of sex that everyone has to some degree or another.

does having a threesome make you a polygamist? same difference.

CheapBastid
03-09-2004, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by scottall
If I am going to let a guy blow me, it's definitely going to be without a condom. Looks like scottall has a new sigtag.

CheapBastid
03-09-2004, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Okay... consider this:

You stick your penis through a glory hole and get a blowjob. BUT... you don't who was on the other end.

If it was a man that did the deed, but you don't know the sex of the blower, does that still make you gay?

Sort of like Scroediner's Cat. With a glory hole in the box. But in this case it was abundantly clear there was a choadler with a dangly sausage on the other end of that hole. So Schroedinger's Cat enjoys showtunes.

QuiGonJosh
03-09-2004, 12:35 PM
if a guy sucks your dick...your at least bi...

mikewendt
03-09-2004, 01:03 PM
If a guy gets head from another guy there's only one word for it...

GAY

So_Cal_SAHM
03-09-2004, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by brizz
not gay.

I'd put it in the "experimental thrill" category of sex that everyone has to some degree or another.

I agree with the above statement.

Here is some other goodies I will share.........;)

I for one enjoy watching a guy get t blowjob from another guy. For me its a turn on. I have even gone as far as to bring up the subject with another guy and asked him if during a threesome (2 guys and me) the other guy wanted to go down on him would he let him. His answer was yes. There would be no other contact betweent him and the other guy......it would all be in the fun of experimentation.

I like a guy who is open enough to not only discuss it but say that he may even try it if given the chance.

scottall
03-09-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by CheapBastid
Looks like scottall has a new sigtag.
:hscratch:
Head with a condom makes baby jesus cry.

matome
03-09-2004, 02:03 PM
Yep, you're a fruit.

illennium
03-09-2004, 07:53 PM
No, but thinking that it does makes you stupid.

POWERBOMB
03-09-2004, 08:02 PM
In any case I'd rather be stupid than gay. Oh sure, some of you might try to joke "well, you already are" but I just ruined your little joke.

POWERBOMB
03-09-2004, 08:16 PM
So_Cal_SAHM, a guy will say pretty much anything to get a little action but when the moment arrives I think that guy you spoke to will skeet and leave. -wink-

Darkfriend
03-10-2004, 09:44 PM
Of course it gives ya a bit of gayness!!

Like Seinfeld said, find a guy that's your size and you DOUBLE your wardrobe!!

Have fun in your gayness!!

MiamiVP
03-12-2004, 03:32 PM
yup...your a punk getting head from a guy

Mountain Biker
03-13-2004, 10:05 AM
I left the place in utter disbelief of what had happened and very confused. I came back a few days later


Gayness

POWERBOMB
03-13-2004, 07:11 PM
Gay.

Giantrobo
03-13-2004, 08:36 PM
If like many of you here believe, "blow jobs aren't sex", then what's a little oral between 2 men?

I would say no based on the popular dvdtalk definition of "oral sex".

joltaddict
03-13-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Giantrobo
what's a little oral between 2 men?

That depends on whether you pitching or catching.

criptik28
03-13-2004, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
Striking up a conversation while porn is on to a guy in another room via a hole makes you gay and a dumbass.

rotfl

POWERBOMB
03-13-2004, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Giantrobo
If like many of you here believe, "blow jobs aren't sex", then what's a little oral between 2 men?

I would say no based on the popular dvdtalk definition of "oral sex".

What does sexual definitions have too do with this act between two guys? The fact is if two guys engage in any sexual activity towards each other, it is gay.

digitalfreaknyc
03-14-2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
What does sexual definitions have too do with this act between two guys? The fact is if two guys engage in any sexual activity towards each other, it is gay.

Yes, you are stupid. And thank god you're not gay.

illennium
03-14-2004, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
What does sexual definitions have too do with this act between two guys? The fact is if two guys engage in any sexual activity towards each other, it is gay.

That is so ignorant, it's unreal.

greg9x
03-14-2004, 01:04 PM
Ok, some here obviously feel they are more 'enlightened' than others.. but come on, sexual relations between same sex partners is a basic definition of 'gay'. While it may not make someone full out gay, you have crossed a line. Maybe it was 'experimental' or whatever but just because you don't like a 'label' it doesn't mean it doesn't apply. I would consider a man giving another man a BJ a 'gay' act also.

joltaddict
03-14-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by greg9x
I would consider giving another man a BJ

But are you gay?

Wannabe
03-14-2004, 02:40 PM
Kissing, hand holding, caressing, spooning, oral sex, phone sex, anal sex, mutual tugging, or long glances between two or more men is most definitely gay. Oh playing video games together is gay too.

Copenhagen
03-14-2004, 02:45 PM
Sorry mutual tugging had me rotfl

kaze0
03-15-2004, 05:51 AM
What about playing games over the internet with guys? Is that gay?

Da Thrilla
03-15-2004, 04:44 PM
YES

King Nest
03-15-2004, 05:04 PM
WAKE UP...

SEX WITH A GUY IS GAY

THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF GAY.

bdawg9
03-15-2004, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by brizz
not gay.

gay is about a lot more than blow jobs....he didn't want a guy...he didn't suck a dick....he didn't kiss anyone, or fantasize about a man...he let some stranger suck his dick through a hole in the wall while watching straight porn. I'm not gay, and I'd never be able to do it regardless of who was on the other end, but there's no way that it all of a sudden makes him gay. that's just silliness.




So if I stick my dick into an dog, and I have my eyes held shut really really tight and am thinking of a woman, then it is not beastialty because I am thinking of a woman.

GAY! GAY! GAY!!!!!!!

scottall
03-15-2004, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by bdawg9
So if I stick my dick into an dog, and I have my eyes held shut really really tight and am thinking of a woman, then it is not beastialty because I am thinking of a woman.
Only if you are ****ing the dog through a hole in the wall.

LurkerDan
03-15-2004, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by joltaddict
The cock only knows warm and wet. rotfl

nickdawgy
03-16-2004, 04:26 PM
I am a guy...a BJ from a guy would be bad. That is all.

WillieTheShakes
03-16-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by nickdawgy
I am a guy...a BJ from a guy would be bad. That is all.

Or really good, as I'm sure some of the local friends of Dorothy will tell you...

big whoppa
03-16-2004, 10:04 PM
You guys have never visited baitbus.com! :D

Buford T Pusser
03-17-2004, 12:22 AM
That baitbus has to be fake.

I couldn't look at too much of it-it was trying to give me The Gay.



http://64.159.93.201//shoots/tbbmattaldo/images/tbbmattaldo3.jpg

http://64.159.93.201//shoots/tbbmauriciotony/images/tbbmauriciotony2.jpg


http://64.159.93.201//images/thebaitbus.com/tour01//text4.gif

digitalfreaknyc
03-17-2004, 05:42 AM
oh right....it HAS TO BE fake...

Otherwise it threatens YOUR masculinity right? Because no one has ever "tried it" right? ;)

Get over yourself.

Buford T Pusser
03-17-2004, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by digitalfreaknyc
oh right....it HAS TO BE fake...

Otherwise it threatens YOUR masculinity right? Because no one has ever "tried it" right? ;)

Get over yourself.


HARRRUUMMMPPPHHHH!!!!!!

scottall
03-18-2004, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by digitalfreaknyc
oh right....it HAS TO BE fake...

Otherwise it threatens YOUR masculinity right? Because no one has ever "tried it" right? ;)

Get over yourself.
All those "reality" sites are fake. I like most of the straight ones and I am not going to check this one out. My masculinity is not threatened, but I prefer not to watch guys sucking dick.

big whoppa
03-18-2004, 02:37 AM
What would Mrs. Pusser think of baitbus.com? ;)

Buford T Pusser
03-18-2004, 07:56 AM
She and I share a similar opinion to the mighty scottall-we don't care for man on man action. No man lick dick thank you very much.

Applejack
03-18-2004, 09:07 AM
A BJ from a guy is gay.

Always.

It might make you bisexual, but you are definitely not completely straight.

Pants
03-18-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by digitalfreaknyc
oh right....it HAS TO BE fake...

Otherwise it threatens YOUR masculinity right? Because no one has ever "tried it" right? ;)

Get over yourself. No it HAS TO BE fake because all those sites (Bang Bus, Capt. Stabin', et al) are fake.

latenight
03-18-2004, 03:06 PM
I have to say Bi-Sexual, leaning toward out and out Gay.

Question, if you can suck your own *ick does that make you gay, if so, then whacking off would make you gay as well.

Applejack
03-18-2004, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by latenight
I have to say Bi-Sexual, leaning toward out and out Gay.

Question, if you can suck your own *ick does that make you gay, if so, then whacking off would make you gay as well.

I think that homosexuality requires at least 2 participants... otherwise everyone would be gay.

QuiGonJosh
03-18-2004, 04:38 PM
if your cock goes in another guys mouth...YOUR GAY!!!

Buford T Pusser
03-18-2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by QuiGonJosh
if your cock goes in another guys mouth...YOUR GAY!!!

I do know one thing:

if your mouth goes on another guy's cock...YOU'RE GAY!!!

QuiGonJosh
03-18-2004, 05:24 PM
exactly!

big whoppa
03-18-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by QuiGonJosh
if your cock goes in another guys mouth...YOUR GAY!!!

So going through the back door doesn't mean you're gay?

Wannabe
03-18-2004, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Applejack
I think that homosexuality requires at least 2 participants... otherwise everyone would be gay.

Not if you're jacking it to gay porn.

scottall
03-19-2004, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Buford T Pusser
Welcome to my first sig. I'm sure it will offend someone.

scottall
03-19-2004, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by big whoppa
So going through the back door doesn't mean you're gay?
Not as long as it is a female.

Buford T Pusser
03-19-2004, 11:09 AM
For the purposes of this thread, if it helps you can pretend those are men on the right.

http://s88311880.onlinehome.us/pics/aglory.jpg

woofman
03-20-2004, 06:39 AM
I always thought that in order to be gay you had to be PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED to a member of the same sex. Obviously the question arises if you are in some sexual situation with someone of the same sex are you gay, but I don't think that you automatically are. As many guys on this forum have shown, many can't accept this as a possibility. Previous to realizing I was gay, I had a sexual encounter with a woman, that doesn't automatically make me straight. I'm a guy, looking back I realize now I wasn't attracted to her then, but just because she got me off doesn't define my sexual orientation. What about all the other gay men and women who participate in hetero-sex until they come to terms with their true identity? Again, that doesn't mean we're all straight. Why is it any different for straight men? Is it an insecurity issue?

ilmmtaitw1
03-20-2004, 12:02 PM
Woofman,

I never thought it about it that way. I totally agree with everything you've said.

scottall
03-20-2004, 05:26 PM
Why is insecurity brought up in every homosexual thread where heterosexuals express their views?

digitalfreaknyc
03-20-2004, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by scottall
Why is insecurity brought up in every homosexual thread where heterosexuals express their views?

You ponder that one for a good long while and tell us what you come up with. I can't wait to hear your thoughts.

POWERBOMB
03-21-2004, 07:15 AM
I've had one person call me stupid and another call my comment ignorant in this thread.

Another person brings up that staight males are possibly "insecure" in their manhood.

Ponder this: Being "gay" is a phase in the same way as bring "goth". Most people grow out of this while others take a "stand" and defend their right to be "gay". You are lashing out at a society that deep down in thoughts you would never discuss openly in a "gay" setting you thank your ass that society is in place. If for no other reason than to make you the "anti-society" and cross the lines and laws that society places out there. If we truly lived in a world with no boundries and no laws then what would you have to bitch about? Being "gay" is being part of a movement that hopes to make change and reform. It's not really Republican or Democrat, neither for World peace or against it, neither Save the Whales or eat more chicken. No, it is just for the ability to cause another problem in society in the hopes that society will break down and cease functioning. Well, sorry to bust your bubble, but Blacks and women have been fighting for equality longer than you have and I'd sooner they have it than you. I'm tired of being called stupid and ignorant and insecure. I have my beliefs and my opinions and it's time you treated them with the same respect as I have treated yours. If you push society too far, society will push back.

This thread started out as fun but for me it's gone beyond that.

WillieTheShakes
03-21-2004, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
Being "gay" is a phase in the same way as bring "goth". Most people grow out of this

I've never called you, or anyone on this board, stupid or ignorant, and I never will.

This comment, however, fits those descriptions to a tee.

ilmmtaitw1
03-21-2004, 10:09 AM
Powerbomb. Your post is jaw-dropping. I never expected to hear such wrong things. Everything you have said is wrong. I won't say more than that.

woofman
03-21-2004, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
I've had one person call me stupid and another call my comment ignorant in this thread.

Another person brings up that staight males are possibly "insecure" in their manhood.

Ponder this: Being "gay" is a phase in the same way as bring "goth". Most people grow out of this while others take a "stand" and defend their right to be "gay". You are lashing out at a society that deep down in thoughts you would never discuss openly in a "gay" setting you thank your ass that society is in place. If for no other reason than to make you the "anti-society" and cross the lines and laws that society places out there. If we truly lived in a world with no boundries and no laws then what would you have to bitch about? Being "gay" is being part of a movement that hopes to make change and reform. It's not really Republican or Democrat, neither for World peace or against it, neither Save the Whales or eat more chicken. No, it is just for the ability to cause another problem in society in the hopes that society will break down and cease functioning. Well, sorry to bust your bubble, but Blacks and women have been fighting for equality longer than you have and I'd sooner they have it than you. I'm tired of being called stupid and ignorant and insecure. I have my beliefs and my opinions and it's time you treated them with the same respect as I have treated yours. If you push society too far, society will push back.

This thread started out as fun but for me it's gone beyond that.

Yikes! Easy there killer, no reason to get so defensive, I wrote my comments if only to raise questions and give an opinion for others to consider, if they choose to, that is what this forum is for right? Thanks for the generalizations though. I was going to comment on your response, but rather than "lash out" I think your comments pretty much speak for itself.

scottall
03-21-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by digitalfreaknyc
You ponder that one for a good long while and tell us what you come up with. I can't wait to hear your thoughts.
I must be insecure since I have no interest in participating in or watching any homosexual relations (lesbians notwithstanding). Is that about right?

I have no problem with others' lifestyles and you can do whatever you want. However, I am most definitely not insecure because I do not want to be with another man or watch two men together. It's called personal preference.

joltaddict
03-21-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
it is just for the ability to cause another problem in society in the hopes that society will break down and cease functioning.

I really dont think guys touching other peoples penises is going to cause the end of the world.

Drama queen. -ohbfrank-

digitalfreaknyc
03-21-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
I've had one person call me stupid and another call my comment ignorant in this thread.


And you've just proven yourself worthy of both titles. Congratulations.

joeblow69
03-21-2004, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by scottall
I must be insecure since I have no interest in participating in or watching any homosexual relations (lesbians notwithstanding). Is that about right?

I have no problem with others' lifestyles and you can do whatever you want. However, I am most definitely not insecure because I do not want to be with another man or watch two men together. It's called personal preference.

No, you're not the insecure one ... the insecure ones are the ones that even have to ask such absurd questions in the first place. "If I do XXX does that me gay???"

I don't know how many times I've explained this. There is no 1 action that makes you gay. Sexual identity is more about feelings than actions. Do you find yourself lusting after hot men? Can you see yourself falling in love with another man? These are the types of questions you need to ask yourself if you're not sure if you're gay or not. It really doesn't matter if your girlfriend stuck her finger up your ass or some random guy gave you head.

scottall
03-21-2004, 09:54 PM
I knew that Buford was the insecure one. ;)

Buford T Pusser
03-21-2004, 10:24 PM
Oh. So that's how it is eh? Harrummpphhh!!!!!

big whoppa
03-21-2004, 11:31 PM
As with JoeBlow, I vote for feelings. You can be gay without having had gay sex and you can be straight and have had oral sex by another guy. I don't think it's as cut and dry as some of you would like it to be.

POWERBOMB
03-22-2004, 04:18 PM
I can live with your comments now that I was able to rant. I haven't changed my opinion on the subject and surprisingly no one here has been able or willing to come up with a rebutle (sp?) to anything I've said other than to call me names. Oh well.

Keep ya head up, Buford. It isn't insecure to ask such a question.

Howiefan
03-22-2004, 04:21 PM
We can't find a logical way to reply to your rant since it was all non-sense

scottall
03-22-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Buford T Pusser
Oh. So that's how it is eh? Harrummpphhh!!!!!
Does it make you gay if you use the word "Harrummpphhh" on an Internet forum?

chente
03-22-2004, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by joeblow69
No, you're not the insecure one ... the insecure ones are the ones that even have to ask such absurd questions in the first place. "If I do XXX does that me gay???"

I don't know how many times I've explained this. There is no 1 action that makes you gay. Sexual identity is more about feelings than actions. Do you find yourself lusting after hot men? Can you see yourself falling in love with another man? These are the types of questions you need to ask yourself if you're not sure if you're gay or not. It really doesn't matter if your girlfriend stuck her finger up your ass or some random guy gave you head.

This seems to be the definitive post on this topic. I totally agree.

ilmmtaitw1
03-23-2004, 07:53 AM
The reason I don't reply or rebutle (sp) anything you've said in your last post Powerbomb, is because you would not like what I have to say! You can't imagine just how ignorant that post was.

scottall
03-23-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by ilmmtaitw1
The reason I don't reply or rebutle (sp) anything you've said in your last post Powerbomb, is because you would not like what I have to say!
[My mom]If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.[My mom]

Seriously, this is the Internet. You don't have to agree with anyone. As long as you share porn, everything's cool. ;)

POWERBOMB
03-24-2004, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by scottall
As long as you share porn, everything's cool. ;)

:thumbsup:

brizz
03-25-2004, 09:26 AM
I've had one person call me stupid and another call my comment ignorant in this thread.

Another person brings up that Jewish males are possibly "insecure" in their manhood.

Ponder this: Being "Jewish" is a phase in the same way as bring "goth". Most people grow out of this while others take a "stand" and defend their right to be "Jews". You are lashing out at a society that deep down in thoughts you would never discuss openly in a "Jew" setting you thank your ass that society is in place. If for no other reason than to make you the "anti-society" and cross the lines and laws that society places out there. If we truly lived in a world with no boundries and no laws then what would you have to bitch about? Being "Jewish" is being part of a movement that hopes to make change and reform. It's not really Republican or Democrat, neither for World peace or against it, neither Save the Whales or eat more chicken. No, it is just for the ability to cause another problem in society in the hopes that society will break down and cease functioning. Well, sorry to bust your bubble, but Catholics and Protestants have been fighting for equality longer than you have and I'd sooner they have it than you. I'm tired of being called stupid and ignorant and insecure. I have my beliefs and my opinions and it's time you treated them with the same respect as I have treated yours. If you push society too far, society will push back.

This thread started out as fun but for me it's gone beyond that.

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I'll await your rebutle.

big whoppa
03-25-2004, 02:54 PM
I must have missed something. I don't remember reading any comments about Jews in this thread.

Buford T Pusser
03-25-2004, 08:36 PM
I don't remember any Jewish stuff either.

POWERBOMB
03-25-2004, 08:51 PM
I've never had a problem with Jews in the same respect that I've had with Gays. I honestly don't know if I know a Jewish person but because there are not throwing their Jewish-ism in your face 24/7, unlike some types of people we know.

Still, I wouldn't use Jewish and manhood in the same sentence as you posted above.

Howiefan
03-25-2004, 09:10 PM
You have got to be kidding....

NCMojo
03-25-2004, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
I've never had a problem with Jews in the same respect that I've had with Gays. I honestly don't know if I know a Jewish person but because there are not throwing their Jewish-ism in your face 24/7, unlike some types of people we know.

Still, I wouldn't use Jewish and manhood in the same sentence as you posted above. rotfl

Oh, irony. The sweet, sweet irony.

brizz -- :up:

brizz
03-25-2004, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by NCMojo
rotfl

Oh, irony. The sweet, sweet irony.

brizz -- :up:

I'm glad someone got it....and of course it was the master Mojo :)

and man....PBs follow up is beyond comprehension....simply astounding.

Buford T Pusser
03-25-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by brizz
I'm glad someone got it....and of course it was the master Mojo :)

and man....PBs follow up is beyond comprehension....simply astounding.

I got the joke but didn't want to spoil it too early. I blame the masterbator Mojo for that. :p

monkeyboy
03-25-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by POWERBOMB
I've never had a problem with Jews in the same respect that I've had with Gays. I honestly don't know if I know a Jewish person but because there are not throwing their Jewish-ism in your face 24/7, unlike some types of people we know.

Still, I wouldn't use Jewish and manhood in the same sentence as you posted above.

Well, if you go around accusing gay people of being in some kind of voluntary 'phase' that lets them give the finger to society, then you ARE going to have a problem with them, and they with you. I suspect you just don't really know any gay people. Strike that, I bet you DO know gay people, you just don't know they're gay. Your opinion would probably change if found out that your best friend, who's just a normal, productive member of society was actually gay.

How do you explain those people that are in the closet? If your definition of gay is just that some people are trying to screw up society and will 'grow out of it', how do you explain the people that commit suicide because they just can't deal? This is a very personal topic for me because my brother is gay. Most people still don't know it because he's just a regular guy you see walking down the street. I can only imagine what you think a gay person is. The guys on 'queer eye for the straight guy'? Sure, some are like that, but most are just like you and me. I see my brother and friends of his sitting around with straight guys who have no idea there are gay people in the room. You can tell they don't know because of the way they act and maybe a little joke they'll crack about something. I suspected after awhile because of various incidents, but I was the only one. My parents have no clue. Most of my family still has no idea. He's terribly depressed and has contemplated suicide because he's not comfortable with himself. I know he wishes he was straight, life would be sooooooooooo much easier for him and his career. This might be ignorant on my part, but I suspect on some level, if gay people could snap their fingers and be straight, a lot would do it. If there was a way to 'grow out of it', my brother would have done it. This isn't voluntary for him, it's quite the opposite.

You make it sound like gay people are in your face every day, slashing your tires and breaking your windows. What is it that you think they're doing to disrupt society? Marriage? Adoption? Basic civil rights and protection from gay bashers? They'd do that very quietly if people like yourself wouldn't make a big deal about it and tell them they can't.

There's nothing easy about being gay. There aren't many advantages to being gay. There are much easier, more effective ways to screw society.

People are telling you that you're ignorant, not because they think your an a**hole, but because if you ever actually spent time with and loved someone who was closeted and agonizing over the feelings they don't want to have, but know that there's nothing they can do about it, you wouldn't possibly think for a second that it was just a voluntary, trivial phase. Like putting on white makeup and wearing black clothing.

If only it were that easy.