View Full Version : I want to see male-female action in gay porn
Brain Stew
09-21-2004, 09:33 AM
I think it's time for gay porn movies to progress to the next stage and include erotic male-female action. It's totally unfair in my view for there to be male-male but no male-female. Heck, the men don't touch women or see them at all in gay porn, let alone have sex with each other.
For an industry that likes to portray itself as open-minded and progressive, the gay porn world still leaves a lot to be desired in this regard.
dick_grayson
09-21-2004, 09:34 AM
now that's funny!
Bandoman
09-21-2004, 09:36 AM
I don't give a brass razoo about this issue.
FinkPish
09-21-2004, 10:46 AM
I will bet you London to a brick that this never happens.
Obey The D
09-21-2004, 12:13 PM
rotfl at Brain Stew's post
I want to see more NBA on WNBA action in midget porn.
Brain Stew
09-21-2004, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by BandoClassic!
I don't give a brass razoo about this issue.
Typical conservative gay porn view :rolleyes:
Listen, I enjoy watching guys pound the shit out of each others asses too, but I think that male-female scenes should be represented in gay porn. If you are content to just watch a guy suck off another then so be it. But I am more adventurous and look towards the future. A progressive future where I can watch a man and a woman fuck in a gay porn.
And don't tell me to get one of those man-woman porns. They are novelty! Besides where am I supposed to get them at the local porn store?
Nick Danger
09-21-2004, 12:39 PM
Brain Stew, you have to understand that the typical buyer of gay porn is grossed out by seeing men having sex with women. The porn industry gives gay men what they want. If there were a lot of buyers who wanted to see naked women in gay porn, the porn industry would go there, because that's where the money is.
Besides, there is a big area in porn shops with M/F sex called 'straight porn.' I suggest taht you go there to get your needs met.
Bandoman
09-21-2004, 12:40 PM
Brain Stew, you're delirious. No one wants to see male-female action in their gay porn. I want to see only manly humping in my porn, and I think I speak for just about everyone here.
Nifty03
09-21-2004, 12:53 PM
I want to see ME-female hardcore porn action in my house every day! (But I guess I'll settle for downloading it at work)
Brain Stew
09-21-2004, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by BandoClassic!
Brain Stew, you're delirious. No one wants to see male-female action in their gay porn. I want to see only manly humping in my porn, and I think I speak for just about everyone here.
I could give a pewter cansaba what you and the rest of the gay porn fans want. I am speaking to the gay porn industry. If they want to be mainstream, they have to give us ass and ***** pounding! Or at least male and female ass pounding!
And don't tell me to go to straight porn, that sexual metropolis!
LurkerDan
09-21-2004, 01:14 PM
pewter cansaba? :lol:
Bandoman
09-21-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Brain Stew
I could give a pewter cansaba what you and the rest of the gay porn fans want. I am speaking to the gay porn industry. If they want to be mainstream, they have to give us ass and ***** pounding! Or at least male and female ass pounding!
And don't tell me to go to straight porn, that sexual metropolis!
If you're too lazy to walk over to the next aisle in the video store to find your perverted M-F action, I don't give a boron cowpunch about you.
I have no problem with male-female scenes in gay porn movies. And I have no problem with female-female scenes in gay porn movies, either. More's the merrier. If they are done well and combined with the male-male scenes then it's a recipe for erotic tension. Perhaps have an orgy with four ladies and two guys, all the participants doing each other.
What grates on me about straight porn is that it presents to the world a co-existence of female-female alongside male-female. But there's absolutely no room for male-male. So it's essentially saying to straights that female-female (but not male-male) is the norm within the heterosexual milieu. If that isn't a double standard I don't know what is.
FinkPish
09-21-2004, 03:58 PM
Oh man, are we dragging this into a parody thread too?
Art, it is the preference of a majority of straight males to enjoy lesbian sex. It has nothing to do with male-male sex being withheld from them and they are somehow being denied something by the porn industry. It doesn't exist in straight porn because it isn't appealling to them. The industry isn't dictating anything to straight men, it's the other way around. When you finally realize this, you will be much happier.
KDforever
09-21-2004, 04:03 PM
And tennis, lots and lots of tennis! Let us not forget about the tennis! :banana:
So, tell me, where can I find this bizzare male/female porn movies that you speak of??? Do I need to go to one of those safe, "sexual gheto" places?
Brain Stew
07-22-2005, 10:50 PM
Man, this was a funny thread.
darkflounder
07-22-2005, 11:03 PM
I want more Chevy's available at my local Ford dealer!
Original Desmond
07-22-2005, 11:15 PM
i want my coke to taste like pepsi !
Joe Molotov
07-22-2005, 11:52 PM
Another thing I hate is how the porn industry acts like when people get together, the only thing they do is have sex. Why don't pornos ever show people sitting down and having a nice meal, maybe going shopping for shoes, or perhaps sitting down and having a cold beer while watching the game? And often do you manage to score with a chick on your first attempt? Maybe they should show guys hitting on women, and then getting shot down and going home and crying about it from the rest of the movie. These are some things to need to be taken into consideration if the industry wants to be taken seriously.
jmattver1
08-01-2005, 02:20 AM
I would personally I want to be able to see the quad-sexaul movies, he/shes with tits a dick a ***** a hairy ass and with no adams apple, getting it on with a fat ass dekrepid old midget. Now if thats not covering all the bases I don't know what does.
Bandoman
08-01-2005, 06:54 AM
I would like to see more South Americans in Asian porn.
niteshade
08-01-2005, 08:03 AM
I would like to see more South Americans in Asian porn.
LOL....For some reason, this made me bust out laughing. rotfl
costanza
08-01-2005, 09:25 AM
If they are done well and combined with the male-male scenes then it's a recipe for erotic tension.
mmmmmmm, erotic tension. :drool:
now with more lima beans!
Buford T Pusser
08-01-2005, 10:06 AM
I missed this thread the first time.
There are a lot of quotes worth their weight in sig gold. Why has no one succumbed?
Mrs. Danger
08-01-2005, 03:38 PM
I would personally I want to be able to see the quad-sexaul movies, he/shes with tits a dick a ***** a hairy ass and with no adams apple, getting it on with a fat ass dekrepid old midget. Now if thats not covering all the bases I don't know what does.
Where does the horse come in?
bill_n_opus
08-01-2005, 05:35 PM
Great thread! ... and Art had to show up. Just had to ....
Brain Stew
08-01-2005, 05:37 PM
Great thread! ... and Art had to show up. Just had to ....
I think he has a chip implanted in his brain that lets him know when someone is talking about gay porn or homoeroticism.
Buford T Pusser
08-01-2005, 08:11 PM
Where does the horse come in?
the ass
Bandoman
08-02-2005, 06:06 AM
the ass
rotfl rotfl rotfl
Buford T Pusser
08-02-2005, 08:13 AM
I finally made Bando laugh. I think my life is complete.
Mrs. Danger
08-02-2005, 03:01 PM
It took you long enough to pick up on my straight line. :rimshot:
Buford T Pusser
08-02-2005, 04:47 PM
Did it the first second I saw your message. Harrrummpphhh!
DVD Polizei
08-02-2005, 05:50 PM
Cool. I'm horny again.
whaaat
08-02-2005, 11:27 PM
sexual metropolis
rotfl
Ben86
08-06-2005, 11:59 PM
That is why they have bisexual porn.
Brain Stew
08-07-2005, 07:05 AM
That is why they have bisexual porn.
Thanks for keeping up with the joke.
Buford T Pusser
08-07-2005, 10:46 AM
Ooofff!
Ben 86,
Straight porn already contains bisexual action, but only bisexual female action. Bisexual porn as you refer to it largely contains male bisexual action with occasional female bisexual action.
Straight porn (aka selectively bisexual porn) is tailored to selective homophobes who can't stand the sight of two men interacting with each other. That's basically the bottom line.
Just be aware that straight porn practises selective homophobia, and isn't something to be celebrated.
NCMojo
08-08-2005, 09:45 PM
I would like to see more South Americans in Asian porn.
Puerto Rico would be considered Central America.
Trainwreck2100
08-09-2005, 02:45 AM
I want to get a burger from pizza hut
Bandoman
08-09-2005, 06:42 AM
Ben 86,
Straight porn already contains bisexual action, but only bisexual female action. Bisexual porn as you refer to it largely contains male bisexual action with occasional female bisexual action.
Straight porn (aka selectively bisexual porn) is tailored to selective homophobes who can't stand the sight of two men interacting with each other. That's basically the bottom line.
Just be aware that straight porn practises selective homophobia, and isn't something to be celebrated.
Okay, let's call it "selectively bisexual porn." I'd be okay with that.
By your logic, all-male gay porn practices selective homophobia and "isn't something to be celebrated." Some of us are more open-minded, art, and feel that all consensual sexuality can be celebrated by those who enjoy that type of sexuality. It seems to me that you can't accept that some people like some types of porn and not other types. You want to force everyone to watch what you find to be enjoyable, regardless of what others want.
Why am I even bothering posting this?
I still want more South (and Central) Americans in my Asian porn. (Thanks, Mojo, for the clarification.)
Mrs. Danger
08-09-2005, 07:16 AM
I want to get pizza from Taco Bell.... oh, they HAVE that!
Giantrobo
08-09-2005, 07:22 AM
I want more chicks sitting on faces. :drool:
LiquidSky
08-12-2005, 04:44 PM
Brain Stew, you have to understand that the typical buyer of gay porn is grossed out by seeing men having sex with women. The porn industry gives gay men what they want. If there were a lot of buyers who wanted to see naked women in gay porn, the porn industry would go there, because that's where the money is.
Besides, there is a big area in porn shops with M/F sex called 'straight porn.' I suggest taht you go there to get your needs met.
I'm a gay guy and not grossed out by seeing men having sex with women. I grew up in the South where male/male porn was not available (around 1983), so I had to watch straight porn. I just concentrated on the schlongs :D I've even made out with chicks....just doesn't do anything for me below the belt. :)
LiquidSky
08-12-2005, 05:07 PM
I want more chicks sitting on faces. :drool:
Would you let Bea Arthur sit on your face? :D
KDforever
08-12-2005, 05:11 PM
the ass
:up: rotfl :lol: NIce one, Buford.
What's really insidious about straight porn is the marketing. It's promoted as porn for straight couples but its coverage of sexual acts excludes that which may turn on a straight woman (eg two hot men together). It's basically porn for men who are terrified by the male-male interaction. Just be aware of this before you start singing its praises.
Deftones
08-14-2005, 09:33 AM
I'm pretty sure most women think that two men getting it on, isn't hot.
Groucho
08-14-2005, 09:34 AM
As a straight woman, I find nothing more repulsive than two dudes going at it.
* case closed *
Deftones
08-14-2005, 09:37 AM
See, told you art.
Mrs. Danger
08-14-2005, 09:50 AM
I think watching two cute guys get it on is really hot! But, gay porn is the best place to get that, because gay guys are hotter than straight guys.
Mrs. Danger
08-14-2005, 09:53 AM
Here's some hot gay porn.
http://www.pridesites.com/ultmtwink/17/images/g-24-04d.jpg
I defy anyone to say that a sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic. A woman often won't admit her love for it because the straight man has, through straight porn, trained her to align her fantasies with his. The basis for this is that the straight man would rather that a woman find another woman sexy than a man. That way, the straight man doesn't have to compete with another man and potentially gets to fulfil his fantasy of a threesome with his wife/girlfriend and another woman.
Wake up to this, ladies. You're being exploited and manipulated by your husbands or boyfriends. Give your husbands or boyfriends the proverbial middle finger and insist that they have sex with other guys before you'll do it with other women. Fair's fair. If they balk then just tell them it's not on. They're creeps and hypocrites for they want you to do things that turn them on under the guise of sexual freedom. The only sexual freedom your husbands or boyfriends believe in is that which puts THEIR fantasies on a plate.
Deftones
08-14-2005, 10:16 AM
I think watching two cute guys get it on is really hot! But, gay porn is the best place to get that, because gay guys are hotter than straight guys.
I think you are the exception to the rule. Most women I've ever talked to about this agree that guy on guy action is gross.
Deftones
08-14-2005, 10:17 AM
I defy anyone to say that a sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic. A woman often won't admit her love for it because the straight man has, through straight porn, trained her to align her fantasies with his. The basis for this is that the straight man would rather that a woman find another woman sexy than a man. That way, the straight man doesn't have to compete with another man and potentially gets to fulfil his fantasy of a threesome with his wife/girlfriend and another woman.
Wake up to this, ladies. You're being exploited and manipulated by your husbands or boyfriends. Give your husbands or boyfriends the proverbial middle finger and insist that they have sex with other guys before you'll do it with other women. Fair's fair. If they balk then just tell them it's not on. They're creeps and hypocrites for they want you to do things that turn them on under the guise of sexual freedom. The only sexual freedom your husbands or boyfriends believe in is that which puts THEIR fantasies on a plate.
Ok, tell us the truth. You really are Gloria Steinem, aren't you? :lol:
Giantrobo
08-14-2005, 10:22 AM
Would you let Bea Arthur sit on your face? :D
Why? Got her number?
Groucho
08-14-2005, 10:22 AM
On art's advice, I just cut off my husband's penis.
Giantrobo
08-14-2005, 10:33 AM
I defy anyone to say that a sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic. A woman often won't admit her love for it because the straight man has, through straight porn, trained her to align her fantasies with his. The basis for this is that the straight man would rather that a woman find another woman sexy than a man. That way, the straight man doesn't have to compete with another man and potentially gets to fulfil his fantasy of a threesome with his wife/girlfriend and another woman.
Wake up to this, ladies. You're being exploited and manipulated by your husbands or boyfriends. Give your husbands or boyfriends the proverbial middle finger and insist that they have sex with other guys before you'll do it with other women. Fair's fair. If they balk then just tell them it's not on. They're creeps and hypocrites for they want you to do things that turn them on under the guise of sexual freedom. The only sexual freedom your husbands or boyfriends believe in is that which puts THEIR fantasies on a plate.
Oh dear god. It's been a while since I've seen such a huge pile of shit. -ohbfrank-
costanza
08-14-2005, 11:57 AM
i want to see more guys getting killed while being fucked in the ass by a horse porn.
Brain Stew
08-14-2005, 12:33 PM
Wake up to this, ladies. You're being exploited and manipulated by your husbands or boyfriends. Give your husbands or boyfriends the proverbial middle finger and insist that they have sex with other guys before you'll do it with other women. Fair's fair.
I never thought I'd say it, but you are right art. BUT ONLY ABOUT THIS POINT. It's not fair to ask a woman to perform homosexual acts if you aren't willing to do them yourself.
But watching pornos or fantasizing? Yeah, that's fair. BTW, thanks for killing my joke thread.
Buford T Pusser
08-14-2005, 01:42 PM
I defy anyone to say that a sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic. A woman often won't admit her love for it because the straight man has, through straight porn, trained her to align her fantasies with his. The basis for this is that the straight man would rather that a woman find another woman sexy than a man. That way, the straight man doesn't have to compete with another man and potentially gets to fulfil his fantasy of a threesome with his wife/girlfriend and another woman.
Wake up to this, ladies. You're being exploited and manipulated by your husbands or boyfriends. Give your husbands or boyfriends the proverbial middle finger and insist that they have sex with other guys before you'll do it with other women. Fair's fair. If they balk then just tell them it's not on. They're creeps and hypocrites for they want you to do things that turn them on under the guise of sexual freedom. The only sexual freedom your husbands or boyfriends believe in is that which puts THEIR fantasies on a plate.
Sadly all or even half of this won't fit in a sig, but for now I've included part of it for the "rate the sig" thread here:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6299389#post6299389
The_Infidel
08-14-2005, 01:58 PM
I defy anyone to say that a sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic.
A sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic. I said it.
Seriously, though...your statement implies that all people should find this act sexy. Sex is like food in that there are too wide a variety of tastes and preferences to say that everybody should like just one certain thing. You find two men kissing erotic...fine. I don't, and a lot of the people who have posted in these threads don't either. But you can't keep coming back and implying people are wrong if they don't like something you do.
Mrs. Danger
08-14-2005, 04:40 PM
You're being exploited and manipulated by your husbands or boyfriends.
No, I'm not. Although, I will admit to manipulating my houseboy.
And, I would love to manipulate you! I can get you a starring role in a Shotgun Video flick.
Just keep in mind that the straight porn industry isn't truly open-minded and you'll know where I'm coming from.
i want to see more guys getting killed while being fucked in the ass by a horse porn.
How dare they relegate horse on man sex to the sexual ghetto of bestiality snuff films.
I never thought I'd say it, but you are right art. BUT ONLY ABOUT THIS POINT. It's not fair to ask a woman to perform homosexual acts if you aren't willing to do them yourself.
Except that not nearly as many women want to see two guys together as men want to see two women.
NCMojo
08-14-2005, 05:33 PM
Just keep in mind that the straight porn industry isn't truly open-minded and you'll know where I'm coming from.
art, the straight porn industry doesn't care about societal norms, or gender equality, or trying to be fair and open-minded. They only care about money -- that's it.
If they thought they could make money by showing male on male action in straight porn, they'd do it. If they thought that hot man-on-monkey sex would sell more DVDs, they'd go that route. If they thought heterosexual men (their primary audience) would enjoy seeing two people dressed up as big fuzzy bunnies having cruddy sex, they'd bring on the furries. They do not care about the product. All they want is the money.
For that reason, I truly believe that no one -- no one -- not you, not me, not even medical science itself -- knows more about what straight men want than the producers of mainstream porn. So what say we take their word for it, and say that straight men do not want to watch two men having sex.
wildcatlh
08-14-2005, 05:50 PM
I defy anyone to say that a sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic. A woman often won't admit her love for it because the straight man has, through straight porn, trained her to align her fantasies with his. The basis for this is that the straight man would rather that a woman find another woman sexy than a man. That way, the straight man doesn't have to compete with another man and potentially gets to fulfil his fantasy of a threesome with his wife/girlfriend and another woman.
Wake up to this, ladies. You're being exploited and manipulated by your husbands or boyfriends. Give your husbands or boyfriends the proverbial middle finger and insist that they have sex with other guys before you'll do it with other women. Fair's fair. If they balk then just tell them it's not on. They're creeps and hypocrites for they want you to do things that turn them on under the guise of sexual freedom. The only sexual freedom your husbands or boyfriends believe in is that which puts THEIR fantasies on a plate.
My wife read this over my shoulder, rolled her eyes, and went into a rant about men telling her what she thinks.
How much does your average straight porn film sell in the States? Five, maybe ten, thousand? Out of a population of 280 million, that's a pathetic amount. Perhaps one of the reasons for the poor sales figures is that the general population knows that straight porn is selectively homophobic and tailored to men who are terrified of the male-male interaction. People can see that including female homosexual action but not male homosexual action is a sleazy double standard.
Face it - it's an industry that pretends to be open-minded but isn't.
KDforever
08-14-2005, 06:03 PM
How much does your average straight porn film sell in the States? Five, maybe ten, thousand? Out of a population of 280 million, that's a pathetic amount. Perhaps one of the reasons for the poor sales figures is that the general population knows that straight porn is selectively homophobic and tailored to men who are terrified of the male-male interaction. People can see that including female homosexual action but not male homosexual action is a sleazy double standard.
Face it - it's an industry that pretends to be open-minded but isn't.
Hi art. I think you are way underestimating just how many men out there are buying porn films.
And I don't recall the porn industry putting out any statements about how open-minded they are or aren't. Can you provide links to any such statement?
NCMojo
08-14-2005, 06:04 PM
How much does your average straight porn film sell in the States? Five, maybe ten, thousand? Out of a population of 280 million, that's a pathetic amount. Perhaps one of the reasons for the poor sales figures is that the general population knows that straight porn is selectively homophobic and tailored to men who are terrified of the male-male interaction. People can see that including female homosexual action but not male homosexual action is a sleazy double standard.
Face it - it's an industry that pretends to be open-minded but isn't.
Yes, art, you've hit the nail right on the head. The major crisis facing the straight porn industry today... is that no one is making any money.
<img src=http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/images/smilies/screwy.gif height=30 width=46>
Mrs. Danger
08-14-2005, 06:04 PM
C'mon Art, do a gay scene in a straight porn flick for me. You get to do Nina Hartley later! It doesn't pay much, but it'll be a really hot film, and you'll have hundreds of fans, both male and female hot for your body!
We'll market the film through the regular outlets, and call it "Art Sex"
Jason
08-14-2005, 06:11 PM
How much does your average straight porn film sell in the States? Five, maybe ten, thousand?
Yeah, but they release over ten thousand titles a year. Plus, as we might have forgotten, the vast majority of people (well, a lot of people, anyhow) never buy porn.
The_Infidel
08-14-2005, 06:32 PM
Art:
Porn probably doesn't sell very many copies of each title because of the wide variety of tastes you claim the narrow-minded porn industry doesn't have. This is another way porn is reflective of real life. Along with having a vast array of sexual preferences, people get tired of things quick. In real life, we can spice up our sexual relationship with our partner by exploring fantasies, trying new positions, whatever. Movies don't change. No one wants to watch the same old movie again and again, so the porn industry is making sure we have a selection of different actresses and fantasy situations to choose from.
They may not sell as many copies of a single movie, but they have enough titles to make themselves a multi-billion $ industry. You can't argue with that.
I simply said that individual porn titles sell very poorly in the States, and that's a fact.
Keep in mind also that the same people tend to buy many titles, so if the sum total sold is in the millions per year, this doesn't mean that millions of people are buying them. What you have is a relatively small pool of people buying many titles.
And little wonder it's a small pool of people! With sleazy double standards, even some straights wouldn't want to be associated with it.
The_Infidel
08-14-2005, 06:35 PM
I simply said that individual porn titles sell very poorly in the States, and that's a fact.
Source?
Or is this going to be another wild statistic you're going to refuse to back up?
The_Infidel
08-14-2005, 06:55 PM
Everybody else:
Please try to ignore art. His rants are based on his refusal to acknowledge two things:
1. The porn industry is geared mainly toward men, and
2. Most men do not want to see two guys do anything sexual to each other.
scottall
08-14-2005, 07:00 PM
I want to see art and The Infidel in some erotic homosexual sex in a heterosexual setting. :drool:
Straight porn is tailored towards men who are terrified of the male-male interaction. There is no doubting this considering the consistent way in which the male-male interaction is omitted from straight porn films. It amounts to selective homopanic when you think about it - i.e. panic at the notion of male homosexual interaction, not female homosexual.
scottall
08-14-2005, 07:16 PM
So you're open to fucking The Infidel?
Or getting fucked, but y'all can work out the details.
The_Infidel
08-14-2005, 07:34 PM
Hey, when did this turn into an attack against me?
scottall
08-14-2005, 07:36 PM
I thought I detected sexual tension. Forget about it if I was picking up wrong signals.
The_Infidel
08-14-2005, 07:45 PM
Damn right you picked up the wrong signal. Maybe you missed the post on the last page where I said I don't find anything erotic about two guys getting it on.
Straight porn is tailored towards men who are terrified of the male-male interaction. There is no doubting this considering the consistent way in which the male-male interaction is omitted from straight porn films. It amounts to selective homopanic when you think about it - i.e. panic at the notion of male homosexual interaction, not female homosexual.
There he goes, refusing to acknowledge valid points by seeking solace in the same tired theory that all men who claim to be straight are either secretly bisexual or just outright homophobic...whichever one suits his point at the time. David Stein would be proud of your consistency.
I'm done here. I've been around this circular argument too many times already, whether reading everyone else's posts or partcipating myself.
scottall
08-14-2005, 07:52 PM
What if it was Brad Pitt and Orlando Bloom with Bloom receiving? I would so totally download that.
Buford T Pusser
08-14-2005, 08:21 PM
And little wonder it's a small pool of people! With sleazy double standards, even some straights wouldn't want to be associated with it.
:lol:
That must be it.
Buford T Pusser
08-14-2005, 08:23 PM
Mr. Infidel-I'm afraid that you
gots the HOMOPANIC!
scottall
08-14-2005, 08:24 PM
:lol:
RoyalTea
08-14-2005, 08:28 PM
I defy anyone to say that a sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic.A sensuous French kiss between two men isn't erotic.
I've seen some European porn recently in which the male-male interaction is beautifully weaved into the fabric of the film. It's not a dominant aspect of the film but it's there. If the Europeans can do it then so should the Americans.
Overall, I think there needs to be a re-alignment of thinking within the American porn industry as to how it approaches the issue of sexuality.
Buford T Pusser
08-14-2005, 09:03 PM
The Europeans don't usually shave their underarms and cooters and I think Americans should follow that example.
The damn Porn makers of America are bald faced hypocrites!
Brain Stew
08-14-2005, 09:43 PM
The Europeans don't usually shave their underarms and cooters and I think Americans should follow that example.
The damn Porn makers of America are bald faced hypocrites!
Everytime I look at old pics from Penthouse I get aroused by the hair alone!
Joe Molotov
08-14-2005, 09:53 PM
I defy anyone to say that a sensuous French kiss between two hot-looking men isn't erotic.
So you're saying if they're not hot-looking, then it isn't erotic? What an uglophobe. -ohbfrank-
Bandoman
08-15-2005, 11:56 AM
I bet you a brick to London that art doesn't give a spitoon's brass handle about what anyone here actually likes to watch.
Apparently anyone who doesn't want to see male gay porn is automatically homophobic and "terrified of a male erection." (Actually, my own erections terrify me, but that's another story entirely.)
KDforever
08-15-2005, 12:06 PM
(Actually, my own erections terrify me, but that's another story entirely.)
Small things frighten you? :nopanic:
Bandoman
08-15-2005, 12:39 PM
Small things frighten you? :nopanic:
It's the sheer enormity and awesome power that frightens me.
Mrs. Danger
08-15-2005, 01:00 PM
I still want to see Art starring in a Shotgun Video production.
NCMojo
08-15-2005, 02:26 PM
I bet you a brick to London that art doesn't give a spitoon's brass handle about what anyone here actually likes to watch.
Is "a brick to London" some kind of gay code?
KDforever
08-15-2005, 03:03 PM
It's the sheer enormity and awesome power that frightens me.
http://www.dialcorp.com/images/branding/static_modules/armour_prod_VSreg.jpg :hscratch:
Mrs. Danger
08-15-2005, 04:25 PM
http://www.dialcorp.com/images/branding/static_modules/armour_prod_VSreg.jpg
EEEEEEW!
This thread has gone from funny, to weird, to stupid, and now to GROSS!
:yack:
KDforever
08-15-2005, 05:44 PM
EEEEEEW!
This thread has gone from funny, to weird, to stupid, and now to GROSS!
:yack:
:lol: Sorry....couldn't resist. ;)
Buford T Pusser
08-15-2005, 09:55 PM
On the Adam Carolla show a comedian was talking about gays and Adam brought up gay porn.
He mentioned how he goes to rent something and he has to get by the gay porn so he uses tunnel vision.
He said "most straight guys have a visceral reaction when they see two guys getting it on. NOOO!!"
"It's like your parents humping on the sun. Christ no."
:lol:
What does Adam know, right?
Giantrobo
08-15-2005, 11:01 PM
On the Adam Carolla show a comedian was talking about gays and Adam brought up gay porn.
He mentioned how he goes to rent something and he has to get by the gay porn so he uses tunnel vision.
He said "most straight guys have a visceral reaction when they see two guys getting it on. NOOO!!"
"It's like your parents humping on the sun. Christ no."
:lol:
What does Adam know, right?
Last night on LOVELINE Dr Drew was talking about how this one study used MRI's on men and women while showing them porn.
They showed women erotic female pics and males erotic male pics. He said that the women more or less had a neutral response to the female pics. Women are have a wider range in their sexuality and they're more flexible. However, the males had lots of activity in the parts of the brain that showed "threat". He(dr. Drew) said it didn't mean that they were Homophobic, but for some reason the site of m/m sex set their brain's Threat alert off. He said they going to study Gay men to see how their brain reacts and why.
Buford T Pusser
08-15-2005, 11:14 PM
Here's something like just might be a step in the right direction.
http://www.littlecockcontent.com/graphics/main.jpg
http://www.littlecockcontent.com/graphics/main.jpg
Mrs. Danger
08-16-2005, 03:29 PM
I tried "gay porn and Art" as an image search, and came up with his photo
http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/diatribe/images/apr29/drolescottish.jpg
I think this explains a lot.
Just imagine all his posts being spoken by this guy, in a bad fake accent.
I would avoid like the plague comedians and pop sexologists who claim to know all there is to know about human sexuality. They're not intellectually honest for starters.
Mrs. Danger
08-17-2005, 05:09 PM
Yeah... it works with that picture quite well.
Art, will you model for me?
Giantrobo
08-17-2005, 05:39 PM
I would avoid like the plague comedians and pop sexologists who claim to know all there is to know about human sexuality. They're not intellectually honest for starters.
We I guess we all have this problem Art. We hear someone talk about a study, we don't agree with what they say because it doesn't fit our agenda so we call them names.
Hey, I understand Art.....
The_Infidel
08-17-2005, 05:40 PM
I would avoid like the plague comedians and pop sexologists who claim to know all there is to know about human sexuality. They're not intellectually honest for starters.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/The_Infidel/hippocrate.jpg
When considering sex studies, you need to be aware of both the methods used and the interpretations made. If the methods are flawed then the study isn't worth the paper it's written on. Even when the methods are valid, the interpretation of the results may be flawed.
Keep in mind in all this that, when a guy says he is repulsed by the sight of two men making out, what he really means to say is that he is repulsed by the notion that he might be aroused by it. Men are trained to repress their bisexual yearnings, bottom line.
NCMojo
08-17-2005, 07:27 PM
When considering sex studies, you need to be aware of both the methods used and the interpretations made. If the methods are flawed then the study isn't worth the paper it's written on. Even when the methods are valid, the interpretation of the results may be flawed.
Keep in mind in all this that, when a guy says he is repulsed by the sight of two men making out, what he really means to say is that he is repulsed by the notion that he might be aroused by it. Men are trained to repress their bisexual yearnings, bottom line.
And so what studies would you point us to that proves your points?
What? None? Nothing? OK then.
jaeufraser
08-17-2005, 07:57 PM
And so what studies would you point us to that proves your points?
What? None? Nothing? OK then.
Didn't you hear Art? Studies are wrong. All men like the cock. There are two types of guys...gay men, and gay men in denial.
No wait, take that back...Art is batshit crazy.
NCMojo
08-17-2005, 08:02 PM
Well, since I had no fear that art would ever reply with a link to a serious study... I did his homework for him:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224762
I didn't say all men were gay. I have said that many, if not most, men have bisexual feelings. The same applies to women. However, there are huge social factors telling men to repress the same-sex attractions that they feel. If men express them, they are called weak, pansies, unmanly...so many derogatory terms. In contrast, women are almost encouraged to express their bisexual feelings, primarily because it tweaks the male heterosexual libido. If women express them, they are called alluring, enigmatic, sexy...words that have positive connotations. Essentially we are allowing the male heterosexual libido to determine what's socially acceptable and what isn't. To me, that is totally unacceptable, and I'll be damned if I'm not going to speak up against it.
By the way, I've coined a new expression for modern-day liberals who have double standards in relation to homosexuality (i.e. female-female OK, male-male not OK). The expression is "libido liberals". Libido liberals are the hypocrites of the modern era.
Bandoman
08-17-2005, 09:29 PM
Art, you are an incoherent, hypocritial ass. Just stop talking, no one gives a shit anymore.
NCMojo
08-17-2005, 09:31 PM
I didn't say all men were gay. I have said that many, if not most, men have bisexual feelings. The same applies to women. However, there are huge social factors telling men to repress the same-sex attractions that they feel. If men express them, they are called weak, pansies, unmanly...so many derogatory terms. In contrast, women are almost encouraged to express their bisexual feelings, primarily because it tweaks the male heterosexual libido. If women express them, they are called alluring, enigmatic, sexy...words that have positive connotations. Essentially we are allowing the male heterosexual libido to determine what's socially acceptable and what isn't. To me, that is totally unacceptable, and I'll be damned if I'm not going to speak up against it.
By the way, I've coined a new expression for modern-day liberals who have double standards in relation to homosexuality (i.e. female-female OK, male-male not OK). The expression is "libido liberals". Libido liberals are the hypocrites of the modern era.
I am confused. What does someone being "liberal" have to do with anything? Are you equating "liberal" with "open-minded"?
Here's the simple truth, art. I am a heterosexual man. I am not aroused by the sight of a naked man. Really. Seriously. I don't object if someone else is aroused -- heck, art, you go be the very best gay man you can be -- but it's not my cup of tea.
Some men like large women. Other men like to see women in high heels crush cockroaches. Whatever trips your trigger is OK by me... but I don't share those particular fetishes.
Naked women do arouse me. One naked woman is good. Two naked women, even better. The reason that men like to see girl-on-girl is that they imagine that the women are really just waiting for a man to come along and make it girl-girl-guy.
Bandoman
08-17-2005, 09:35 PM
Here's the simple truth, art. I am a heterosexual man. I am not aroused by the sight of a naked man.
According to art that's impossible. You're just afraid of being turned on by a man, which you are. Turned on by a man, that is. You're probably attracted to art.
NCmojo,
It's one thing to not be aroused, it's another thing to be repulsed. Any man who says he is aroused by girl-girl and repulsed by guy-guy is a libido liberal, especially if he projects his personal preference to standards of social acceptability. If he says that one form of homosexuality (female-female) is socially acceptable and another (male-male) isn't, that makes him a libido liberal.
By the way, I detected two flaws in your arguments. One is that you're generalising. You need to understand that not all heterosexual men like to watch girl-girl action. The other flaw is that you bring fetishes into it. Fetish has nothing to do with it. It's interesting, also, that you claim that two women are better than one. I can understand the concept of the "more the merrier" but that doesn't explain why you want to see these women doing things to each other. My theory, and I'm not talking about you personally, is that many men who like watching female homosexual action are actually searching for their inner gay. And I'll stand by that come hell or high water.
LurkerDan
08-17-2005, 09:47 PM
This thread may be the funniest thing I have ever read.
The only thing that would make it funnier is if art turns out to be somebody we know, playing the perfect eternal troll. Soup, maybe? Yes, that would make it funnier.
Bandoman
08-17-2005, 09:48 PM
You're confusing what arouses someone and what is "acceptable" to that same person. I have no problem with male homosexuality, I'm not threatened by it, I think it's fine and that homoesexual partners should have the same legal rights as heretosexual partners, but I'm simply not aroused by it. Period.
Bandoman
08-17-2005, 09:49 PM
This thread may be the funniest thing I have ever read.
The only thing that would make it funnier is if art turns out to be somebody we know, playing the perfect eternal troll. Soup, maybe? Yes, that would make it funnier.
Holy shit, that would be perfect. :lol:
The_Infidel
08-17-2005, 10:28 PM
NCmojo,
By the way, I detected two flaws in your arguments. One is that you're generalising. You need to understand that not all heterosexual men like to watch girl-girl action.
How is it generalizing to state your own preferences? Nowhere in his post did he state, or even imply, that all heterosexual men like to watch girl-girl action. Don't twist people's words around to suit your own purposes.
It's interesting, also, that you claim that two women are better than one. I can understand the concept of the "more the merrier" but that doesn't explain why you want to see these women doing things to each other.
I personally explained this to you in the previous thread covering this, but you probably don't remember, since you don't listen to or retain anything except what you choose to. I'm going to state it again, and also add that this is from my personal experience, and anyone is welcome to disagree if they feel the need. Men are turned on by women being turned on, so seeing two women being turned on is an even bigger turn-on.
My theory, and I'm not talking about you personally, is that many men who like watching female homosexual action are actually searching for their inner gay. And I'll stand by that come hell or high water.
Well then, let's all pray for hell or high water soon. Maybe we can be rid of your inane, baseless praddling.
Deftones
08-17-2005, 11:31 PM
This thread may be the funniest thing I have ever read.
The only thing that would make it funnier is if art turns out to be somebody we know, playing the perfect eternal troll. Soup, maybe? Yes, that would make it funnier.
I doubt he's clever enough to pull something like that off. :lol:
Let me make it perfectly clear for the naysayers.
A libido liberal is a person who is open-minded only to those things that sexually turn him on. He applies his open-minded attitude only to that which he wishes to experience and observe sexually. Anything that doesn't tweak his libido is considered out of bounds. Thus, a man who is turned on by the sight of female homosexuals and who says that two women kissing in public is OK but that two men doing it isnt...well, he's a libido liberal.
A true liberal is a person who understands that what turns him on in terms of experience and observation isn't a fair standard. He understands that even that which doesn't turn him on sexually still has a place in society. He has a sense of inclusion and fairness. His open-mindedness isn't limited by his own selfish perspective. He is devoid of double standards.
RoyalTea
08-18-2005, 04:57 AM
Let me make it perfectly clear for the naysayers.
all men, secretly or openly, love the cock.<i></i>
Mrs. Danger
08-18-2005, 07:39 AM
Art, would you like to give a speech on this topic? I need to find a presenter for our next Leather Fest. If you talk half as good as you type, you should be a hit.
joltaddict
08-18-2005, 07:55 AM
By the way, I've coined a new expression for modern-day liberals who have double standards in relation to homosexuality (i.e. female-female OK, male-male not OK). The expression is "libido liberals". Libido liberals are the hypocrites of the modern era.
rotfl
You take batshit insane to a whole new level.
Bandoman
08-18-2005, 09:26 AM
You have to give art credit for persistence, if nothing else.
LurkerDan
08-18-2005, 09:57 AM
I doubt he's clever enough to pull something like that off. :lol:
perhaps, but you gotta admit, it WOULD make this even funnier.
Buford T Pusser
08-18-2005, 04:37 PM
bump for no apparent reason
wildcatlh
08-19-2005, 09:21 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a person as deep in the closet as art is.
And art's threads shall never die!
Joe Molotov
08-19-2005, 11:25 PM
You have to give art credit for persistence, if nothing else.
Just when you think "Aha, there's no way can argue his way out of this one", he does! It's amazing. And I hope it never ends.
Buford T Pusser
08-19-2005, 11:33 PM
enigma riddle whatever.
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