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dvd-4-life
01-09-2007, 11:52 AM
I bet if you asked the people who buy adult dvds that 90 percent of them don't care for the special features and they are more interested in the original feature.

Nogura
01-09-2007, 01:48 PM
I would speculate that a lot of it is the 'replay' value, plus you feel you get a little 'extra' for your money. Myself, I almost never watch any special features on any DVD I own.

Col. Chimera
01-09-2007, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Personally, as a reviewer, I really do dig the special Features of a DVD when done right. I am a sucker for trailers and bonus scenes when they are included. The general photobooks and ads generally don't add a whole lot of value to me. I think the reason why it is a point of emphasis on the reviews is that the ‘extras’ were one of the reasons that originally separated DVDs from VHS. Obviously, this argument is incredibly dated.

Cheers,

Col. Mustard

roadbikeguy13
01-09-2007, 09:42 PM
The only extras I like are the Behind the Scenes and Bonus scenes - everything else is garbage.

I've talked with a few directors who say they are forced to include tralers and phone sex ads.

Bluelitespecial
01-09-2007, 09:55 PM
Because commentaries on porn by the stars are fun to listen to while watching.

TheBigDave
01-09-2007, 11:09 PM
Sometimes the sex in the bonus scenes and behind-the-scenes is better than the sex in the movie. Some companies put an extra 30-45 minutes of sex scenes in the bonus features.

Pornstar commentaries are often funny. And sometimes, when they start talking dirty and describing the sex, it can really enhance the scene.

Other stuff like photo galleries, cast bios, trailers and ads are pretty worthless.

XCritic Editor
01-10-2007, 12:12 AM
You can always throw your hat in the ring and try your hand at reviewing adult DVDs. We're always looking for more people.

Seriously, it's all about value. If you're going to plunk $25-$30 on a porn, shouldn't you get more than phone sex ads!

Shannon Nutt
01-10-2007, 10:58 AM
I bet if you asked the people who buy adult dvds that 90 percent of them don't care for the special features and they are more interested in the original feature.

I bet that you're wrong. :)

One of the biggest complaints I hear is that studios don't do ENOUGH with the bonus features. Fans love behind the scenes stuff with their favorite girls.

JesseCuster
01-10-2007, 11:47 AM
I like the commentaries with the actresses. It's kind of exciting to hear one get turned on from watching.

Ravyn
01-12-2007, 02:13 PM
As a reviewer I enjoy the special features and the BTS as well. Even with mainstream movies I have always watched the extras.

Houstondon
01-19-2007, 12:43 PM
DVD-4-Life, I disagree. While extras are only one part of the equation, they help give a DVD (or DVD set) replay value if handled correctly. There have been times when the extra scenes were hotter than the movie too. But as far as consumers go, like anything else; the more they get for the same amount of money, the happier they are in my extensive experience. Otherwise, even if they're "more interested" in the original feature then the extras, the extras are the icing on the cake in far too many circumstances to dismiss them as a waste of time.

Texasgingersnap
01-19-2007, 09:04 PM
Without decent extras we'd still be buying VHS....

Or at least that's my .75 cents worth on the subject.....

(Adjusted for inflation)

Rogue588
01-19-2007, 11:12 PM
No forced phone sex ads = NO SALE

Ravyn
01-20-2007, 07:58 AM
Question.. now that that issue was brought up.. how do you men feel about those phone sex ads prior to the movie. I have reviewed a few of those and I find them to be annoying as all hell. I can understand one ad.. but almost 7 minutes? That itself would make me want to turn it off..

Shannon Nutt
01-22-2007, 10:25 AM
Question.. now that that issue was brought up.. how do you men feel about those phone sex ads prior to the movie. I have reviewed a few of those and I find them to be annoying as all hell. I can understand one ad.. but almost 7 minutes? That itself would make me want to turn it off..

I don't mind them being on the disc, but don't front-load them, and for heaven's sake, don't make them un-skippable. Wicked Pictures has done the best with these, they make them a menu option, but you only have to view them if you want to. Other studios (you know who you are) insist on putting them at the beginning of all their titles.

Houstondon
01-22-2007, 12:05 PM
The companies get paid to have the ads, a lot more if the ads are forced from what I've been told, so the idea is that they subsidize the titles. I don't buy the logic (and won't unless I see a marked price drop on all titles using such ads) and while I'll point out the forced spam ads in my reviews, I'm not going to kill a rating over it either. Most of the time, you can FF through them so it's not too bad but it does change the reviewer frame of mind. ;)

Dick Danger
01-24-2007, 02:08 AM
It seems to me that in a good majority of the DVDs I've seen, the extras are always the same: photo gallery, cumshot recap, possibly some behind the scenes, and possibly some coming attractions. The photo gallery and cumshot recaps do nothing for me, and the behind the scenes stuff can be hit or miss. Sometimes there is an entire extra sex scene, but more often than not it is just the girls talking to the camera, or the girls preparing for a scene. That's not interesting to me either. I haven't yet really found a DVD where the extras added a whole new level of value to the movie.

Shannon Nutt
01-24-2007, 10:28 AM
It seems to me that in a good majority of the DVDs I've seen, the extras are always the same: photo gallery, cumshot recap, possibly some behind the scenes, and possibly some coming attractions. The photo gallery and cumshot recaps do nothing for me, and the behind the scenes stuff can be hit or miss. Sometimes there is an entire extra sex scene, but more often than not it is just the girls talking to the camera, or the girls preparing for a scene. That's not interesting to me either. I haven't yet really found a DVD where the extras added a whole new level of value to the movie.

Pick up something from Wicked Pictures - Like "The Visitors".

jonnyquest
10-18-2007, 09:55 PM
I like the BTS material because in many movies it's the only chance you get to see the girls solo, as the features tend to insert the guys after a perfunctory 5-second camera scan across the girl. Also the "interviews" show a bit of the real personality and real voice of the girls, which is a nice change from the hollow fakey stuff you hear them say in the main feature. Some titles even include solo masturbation scenes in the bonus section. All of the things I just mentioned are the entire content of some dvd lines (such as JBvideo) and yet they are provided for free on a feature title, and you get an hardcore flick too. I don't like slideshow style of photo gallery. I prefer individual photos where you can advance by using the remote. Some also disallow zooming of the photo gallery pics, and the pics are not full-frame size.

Emahevul
10-18-2007, 10:58 PM
Ok, I'm new to this forum, but I've been known to review a dvd or three in my day so I'm gonna throw my 2 cents out here too.

I personally like the BTS stuff for much the same reasons others here have stated, that being that you at least seem to get a glimpse at the "real" girls who are providing so much pleasure to us. I don't care much for trailers though and hate front loaded ads. Bonus scenes are cool too. :D

TimeandTide
10-19-2007, 01:05 AM
I personally like the BTS stuff for much the same reasons others here have stated, that being that you at least seem to get a glimpse at the "real" girls who are providing so much pleasure to us. I don't care much for trailers though and hate front loaded ads. Bonus scenes are cool too. :D

Ditto!

And welcome to the forum, Emahevul!

Emahevul
10-19-2007, 01:08 AM
Thanks for the welcome.

LiquidSky
10-20-2007, 01:19 PM
I love special features such as interviews with the models so I can see how they are when not performing. I also like behind-the-scenes footage and previews.

XCritic Editor
10-20-2007, 02:57 PM
To me it's the move that's #1. Then I go and look at the special features.

Emahevul
10-20-2007, 10:16 PM
To me it's the move that's #1. Then I go and look at the special features.

Maybe I'm just bass ackwards, but for some odd reason, I will go to the extra's first, then watch the movie.

TimeandTide
10-20-2007, 11:04 PM
Maybe I'm just bass ackwards, but for some odd reason, I will go to the extra's first, then watch the movie.

Same here. I think it's the "completist" in me wanting to knock off as much of the disc as I can before tackling the main portion.

SWorldMegan
10-24-2007, 08:32 PM
I think for every studio it's different, but for us there is a LOT of extra stuff on our movies so we add all the stuff that was good but maybe detracted from making the movie flow, extra sex, etc into a section called Lost Footage. Why? well because some of it is really sexy, some of it funny, some of it just plain interesting. Our lost footage usually ranges in the 35- 60 minute time frame.

I heard someone say cum shot recpas arn't important .. we recently added these (as well as lots of additional chapter markers) does everyone feel this way?i thought they were pretty nifty!

Megan

TimeandTide
10-24-2007, 09:09 PM
I heard someone say cum shot recpas arn't important .. we recently added these (as well as lots of additional chapter markers) does everyone feel this way?i thought they were pretty nifty!


Some people find that the hottest portion of the scene is the cumshot, so I understand why it's a valuable addition. Personally, I'll jump to the cumshot far more often than I'll use the "pick your pleasure" feature that enables viewers to jump to, say, all of the cowgirl scenes in the vid. All that feature tells me, however, is that each scene has the same sex positions. Pretty boring, IMO.

THE least valuable "extra" are the photo galleries, however. Does anyone find value in THESE? Seriously, why would you pause a still, when there are usually hours worth of actually sex on the DVD? Just another excuse by a lot of studios to claim that their DVDs have lots of extras.

Emahevul
10-24-2007, 10:39 PM
THE least valuable "extra" are the photo galleries, however. Does anyone find value in THESE? Seriously, why would you pause a still, when there are usually hours worth of actually sex on the DVD? Just another excuse by a lot of studios to claim that their DVDs have lots of extras.

I completely agree. This isn't, to me, an extra. I skip over these all the time.

jonnyquest
10-25-2007, 11:47 AM
THE least valuable "extra" are the photo galleries, however. Does anyone find value in THESE? Seriously, why would you pause a still, when there are usually hours worth of actually sex on the DVD? Just another excuse by a lot of studios to claim that their DVDs have lots of extras.I find value in photo galleries. I like the see the girls without the guys. There is usually little or no main video without the guys. Also, in the case of gallery pics made by a dedicated photographer (rather than frame captures from the video), they have better lighting, framing, outfits, posing, etc. than can be seen in the main feature. It's a matter of focus. The photo gallery pics are about the girl. The feature video is about the sex. Different purpose, different result. I can understand how the gallery pics would be uninteresting to the viewer whose main interest is the sex action. But to me, the gallery pics are another opportunity to see things the videographer/editor didn't present.

TimeandTide
10-25-2007, 02:11 PM
I find value in photo galleries. I like the see the girls without the guys. There is usually little or no main video without the guys. Also, in the case of gallery pics made by a dedicated photographer (rather than frame captures from the video), they have better lighting, framing, outfits, posing, etc. than can be seen in the main feature. It's a matter of focus. The photo gallery pics are about the girl. The feature video is about the sex. Different purpose, different result. I can understand how the gallery pics would be uninteresting to the viewer whose main interest is the sex action. But to me, the gallery pics are another opportunity to see things the videographer/editor didn't present.

Good point. And well stated.

Ravyn
10-25-2007, 04:36 PM
Hi Emahevul and Welcome!

Dont feel bad I got straight ot he extras first, when I first started as a reviewer I found that to be such a great help being that I really didnt know all the performers names. Now its a breeze. Many of the BTS include the cast antics and comments from the cast and directors etc which I like listening too. Some of hte companies like Vivid loads them up nicely with 5 extra bonus sex scenes which Im sure no one has ever passed up. As far as the trailers go.. well.. Ive been known to want a few of the ones they cross sell.:D

Frankenlola
10-25-2007, 06:18 PM
I was coming to post my response, but it appears to have been stated several times above:

Good: BTS, bonus scenes. interviews, decent previews.

Can do without: Web addresses, cumshot recap, stills

Emahevul
10-26-2007, 07:16 PM
Hi Emahevul and Welcome!

Dont feel bad I got straight ot he extras first, when I first started as a reviewer I found that to be such a great help being that I really didnt know all the performers names. Now its a breeze. :D

Thanks for the welcome Ravyn. Not that it is well known in this forum, but I've been known to review a DVD or two (ok, so more accurately about 150 DVD/VHS) and at one point even ran my own review site. However, none of that has been in the last couple years.

HD can vouch for me on that.

Eli Cross
10-27-2007, 07:31 PM
it's an interesting topic. When I ran stores, DVD was just a glint in the eye of the folks at Toshiba, so Extras weren't really an issue. However, we (Kylie & I) hear from consumers all the time that they love the extras and feel cheated if the BTS isn't long enough or they don't get something extra, be it solos or whatever.

I know on the Upload set for example, we busted our asses on the extras. Now granted, we're talking about one of the most expensive porn movies ever made so it's an unusual example, but the extras on that movie run more than four hours, and the vast majority of that is really cool, original content done specially for that movie.

Now the argument could be made that it's overkill, but you know if you aren't interested, you don't have to watch it, right? Our "Making of" documentary that fills disc three, which was produced by Kylie and Belial, is terrific. If you have any interest at all in how these movies actually get made, you'll love it. You can't stroke to it, but I always felt that the Behind the Scenes was just that -- BEHIND the scenes, not just MORE of the scenes.

As for the phone sex ads, I loathe them. We don't have any. There are trailers, and you can go find them if you want to, but the phone sex ads at the head of a disc -- particularly the ones that are coded so you can't skip or fast-forward through them are nigh on criminal (yeah, I'm talkin' to you, Sin City).

When I ran AVN the DVD format was still new enough we used to do separate DVD quality reviews for new DVD releases, and we used to take off a full A from any disc that had that kind of encoding. Drives me nuts. In the mainstream world, Universal is almost as bad with their crap at the beginning of discs, but at least you can skip forward to the menu.

Houstondon
10-28-2007, 07:16 AM
I know on the Upload set for example, we busted our asses on the extras. Now granted, we're talking about one of the most expensive porn movies ever made so it's an unusual example, but the extras on that movie run more than four hours, and the vast majority of that is really cool, original content done specially for that movie.

Now the argument could be made that it's overkill, but you know if you aren't interested, you don't have to watch it, right? Our "Making of" documentary that fills disc three, which was produced by Kylie and Belial, is terrific. If you have any interest at all in how these movies actually get made, you'll love it. You can't stroke to it, but I always felt that the Behind the Scenes was just that -- BEHIND the scenes, not just MORE of the scenes.

Welcome aboard! Yeah, Upload just came in so look for the review in the next few days (the box alone looks pretty cool; it's too bad some etailers refuse to carry it). I liked the extras a lot on your last epic and I heard there was a pool going on about who would actually watch the movie and all the extras aside from me but no one appeared to be likely enough to tackle it... :p

Better extras=better value!

TimeandTide
10-28-2007, 10:23 AM
I heard there was a pool going on about who would actually watch the movie and all the extras aside from me but no one appeared to be likely enough to tackle it... :p


:rolleyes:

AHEM.

Eli Cross
10-28-2007, 12:47 PM
No bickering! If you end up needing a few extra review copies just let me know.

As for retailers, that's what happens when you refuse to sell a $360,000 10-hour DVD set for eight dollars.

Ravyn
10-28-2007, 01:23 PM
:rolleyes:

AHEM.


Hey ! who said I wouldnt want to tackle it???

Houstondon
10-28-2007, 03:26 PM
No bickering! If you end up needing a few extra review copies just let me know.

As for retailers, that's what happens when you refuse to sell a $360,000 10-hour DVD set for eight dollars.

I'm just happy we got the first copy (but I was referring to reviewers on other websites in my remarks) but I'm sure the other, very talented reviewers here would/will do it justice too (I send out care packages giving up my own copies of stuff from time to time as proof that I believe it; but they aren't getting Upload or Corruption from me...lol).

Thanks for setting the matter straight on the pricing demands of some companies. Given the pricing relayed to me on HD DVD titles at a few of them, I have openly remarked at how some e-tailers have done their best at killing the high definition porn market rather than foster it to fruition. When an HD version sells for $2 more but the price to consumer more than doubles, no wonder it doesn't fly off the shelves. ;)

TimeandTide
10-28-2007, 05:28 PM
No bickering! If you end up needing a few extra review copies just let me know.

As for retailers, that's what happens when you refuse to sell a $360,000 10-hour DVD set for eight dollars.

Eli, I just sent you a PM. (Not related to review copies, I promise.)

Eli Cross
10-29-2007, 02:00 PM
Okay, I'm officially going OT here, but I'm not sure this is interesting enough to start a new thread...

Right now there are three major problems facing adult HD disc releases, at least that I've discovered so far while prepping HD releases of Upload and Corruption. The first is that since there are still very few authorers set up for this content -- particularly for Blu-Ray which is my preference -- authoring and replicating costs are sky-freakin'-high.

Take Upload as an example: We can put the entire contents of the current four-disc set on two 30GB dual-layer HD discs. Everything included in the Upload set -- Making of, Bonus scene, everything -- was shot and mastered in HD with the idea of releasing a full HD set.

But we're looking at $8k-$10k for authoring and replication of that two-disc set, so say $20k to do both versions (vs. $4k for both versions of the SD set).

Now factor in problem #2 which is that retailers are willing to pay maybe $2 more per piece for an HD-DVD release, of which they buy maybe ten pieces.

Problem #3 is that the same retailer then goes for a 300-400% markup on that title ensuring that A: very few people buy it, and B: we as a studio get extremely pissed that they put the screws to us on price in the first place.

I don't know what the solution is to these problems, but given the lackluster sales of both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, I'm thinking that the last format war might not end in a draw so much as in both sides losing.

Houstondon
10-29-2007, 02:16 PM
I feel your pain on this one. I've mentioned it in the past (both in articles and reviews online) asking why the markup was so much higher. The answer danced around my questions while chastising me for suggesting that it was "all the distributor/retailer's fault". I can hardly fault the production company when they are typically selling the copies as low as they have and there doesn't appear to be any substantial additional cost to the distributor or retailers.

In short, my observations stand that unless the ones selling HD/BR titles are willing to make the market by getting their prices in line with costs, they are going to continue pushing people away in droves as they have for years now. The up side to the HD/BR titles (per Megan) is that they take much longer to download by the crooks, so at this writing, that might be the way for high end projects to go (and isn't DVD Demon setting up a BR plant?).

Back on topic, as a director/producer, do the costs of the extras justify their inclusion to you (at least on the titles you really want to sell)?

310HSSA
10-29-2007, 10:46 PM
personally i love extras. i normally will watch all the extras before viewing the movie. im so happy to say that im getting a copy of the d.c. version of upload in about 5-6 days. i just put the order in earlier today and i cant wait to get it in my hands and in my player. im tempted to kick every one out the house for a day so i can watch it in full surround sound, loud and proud. eva is a dream and im very anxious to see her performance in such a major feature.

a question for eli, whats the main difference between upload3x and upload4x? i spent near 50% more than what i was gonna pay for the regular version so i was wondering you know what can i expect to see over getting the 3x version?

Eli Cross
10-30-2007, 11:40 AM
Back on topic, as a director/producer, do the costs of the extras justify their inclusion to you (at least on the titles you really want to sell)?

Well, I've never been convinced that the extras will sell more copies of the movie, but I think the extras can guarantee that someone feels they've gotten their money's worth. It always rankled me that Vivid -- for example -- has an "extras" template that they apply to every single title no matter how big or small a release. I've never understood that.

Wicked, obviously, does things very differently, and in their case, I think extras are one of the things they're best at. They're still following in the footsteps laid by David Lord when he was the "DVD Guy" over there, and it has served them well.

a question for eli, whats the main difference between upload3x and upload4x? i spent near 50% more than what i was gonna pay for the regular version so i was wondering you know what can i expect to see over getting the 3x version?

The main difference is that the 4x has fourteen minutes of super-hardcore sex that was cut from the regular 3x release. The 4x has quite a lot of fisting, pissing and hard bondage that was edited out of the 3x.

I am curious, though, about where you were able to find the 3x for 50% less... if you find this movie anywhere -- new, at least -- for less than $35 I'd be highly suspicious of its authenticity.

310HSSA
10-30-2007, 08:10 PM
i found the 3x version for about $25 at adultvideouniverse.com

ok cool, 14 more minutes of sex, thats almost like adding another scene. you guys were allowed to put the fisting on dvd, i thought that was illeagal in the states.

Eli Cross
10-31-2007, 10:44 AM
310,

the labyrinthine obscenity statutes in the US are a thread all unto themselves. Suffice it to say no, it isn't illegal at all. Most people in the adult industry simply have no understanding of the law.

Houstondon
11-02-2007, 01:33 PM
Well, I've never been convinced that the extras will sell more copies of the movie, but I think the extras can guarantee that someone feels they've gotten their money's worth. It always rankled me that Vivid -- for example -- has an "extras" template that they apply to every single title no matter how big or small a release. I've never understood that.

Wicked, obviously, does things very differently, and in their case, I think extras are one of the things they're best at. They're still following in the footsteps laid by David Lord when he was the "DVD Guy" over there, and it has served them well.

The extras in Upload (http://xcritic.com/reviews/read.php?ID=31035) will sure help make people feel they got their money's worth, though from what I hear, the movie's pretty good too. :D

In defense of Vivid's extras (and I've beaten them up a time or twelve myself about this), they have made efforts to improve. These days, the top end releases tend to have much better extras and even the mid to lower tier titles try to offer bonus scenes with performers from the movie itself. I will always prefer extras made for the movie in hand and not taken from past titles though but some of their BTS features have been more interesting than the titles themselves (and I am far from a "Vivid Hater" given their improvements in recent years).

Wicked Pictures is another high end player in the extras market but they have a set formula used for most of their titles too. It usually means a bonus scene (perhaps two) from a previous movie, a BTS, trailers, and a heap of photogalleries. On their high end titles, they really break loose with the juice though and typically set the standard of the day. I remember "Crawdaddy" putting a lot of sweat into elevating the company in this manner too so I was pleased to see you used his services on Upload (I'd like to see him at the helm of larger efforts than he's been making of late; maybe the "Wisdom of Bo" can prevail here too...).

Eli Cross
11-02-2007, 01:56 PM
I remember "Crawdaddy" putting a lot of sweat into elevating the company in this manner too so I was pleased to see you used his services on Upload (I'd like to see him at the helm of larger efforts than he's been making of late; maybe the "Wisdom of Bo" can prevail here too...).

Possibly. Next year is going to be very interesting for us. We're going to be taking an extremely different direction from any studio currently shooting, and hopefully shaking things up a bit in the process...

310HSSA
11-02-2007, 06:10 PM
eli,

wil you be directing paulinas first feature for the company. i was sad to hear paulina went contract cause shes a huge fav of mine and i want to see as much of her as possible. shes doing only five movies the first year but if at least one of those is with you i know ill be very happy. oh and just got my copy of upload d.c. im just waiting till i order pizza later before i put it on, to kinda build up the anticipation a little more.

Eli Cross
11-02-2007, 08:52 PM
I actually did direct Paulina's first movie for SexZ, Perils of Paulina, which will be out in December and features her first anal. I'm directing her second movie next week which ups the ante to a b/g/g a.

She's a great girl. We're trying to indoctrinate her into the Dark Side slowly and gently.

Hope you enjoy Upload at least as much as the pizza.

Houstondon
11-04-2007, 09:41 PM
Possibly. Next year is going to be very interesting for us. We're going to be taking an extremely different direction from any studio currently shooting, and hopefully shaking things up a bit in the process...

Hmm, this sounds interesting. Maybe we need to start a new thread and open the topic up for discussion... :)

310HSSA
11-06-2007, 09:36 PM
Eli! Eli! Eli! Im So Glad You Did Paulinas First And Second Movie. Oh Man I Cant Begin To Describe The Joy Running Through Me Knowing That Paulina Is Under Such Great Direction. Thank You Thank You Thank You. Her And Eva Are The Two Girls I Would Most Like To Spend A Day With. Ive Spent A Little Time Talking To Each At Erotica In June And Was So Pleased To See That These Girls Are So Nice. Not Bitchy Like Some Of The Girls That Were There. Theyre Incredible Young Women Who Have Absolutly Amazing Futures Ahead Of Them In This Business As Long As They Continue To Make Great Descisions And Working With You Is Defenitely A Great Way To Go. Paulina, Eva If Youre Out There Reading This And Are Interested In Having A Fun Night With A 21y/o Guy Im From Orange County,ca I Would Love To Take You Out Some Time Anywhere From The Casual Islands Bar And Grill To The Fancy Orange Hill Over Looking The City Of Orange

Upload Was An Aweinspiring Experience That I Will Never Forget. A Truely Great Piece Of Work That Will Live Forever As One Of The Greatest Adult Films Of All Time. The Best Thing About The Movie Was The Way The Film Was Presented. The Effects Used On The Film, Alone, Made The Movie Interesting To Watch And Then You Put A Great Story And Even Better Sex Scenes In It And Make A Masterpiece. Scene After Scene I Was Amazed At How Well The Girls Were Performing And How Well It Was Captured. Some Of The Lines Had Me Giggleshitting So Much That I Would Have To Rewind To Catch Whatever I Missed. One Of My Fav Lines Was When Tesla Is Getting Fisted And She Says "what? No Dinner First? Not Even A Kiss? Some Date You Are" Lol I Just Couldnt Stop Laughing. If Avn Doesnt Award Eva And Hillary Something Isnt Right With This World. Oh And That Urinating Into An Anal Gape Had Me Slap Me Knee So Hard It Was Still Sore The Next Day. Lorelei And Adrianna Have Been My Fav Girl Girl Duo For A Long Time And You Just Made Them So Much Better With That One.

Eli Cross
11-08-2007, 11:33 PM
310,

Yeah, both Eva and Paulina are pretty terrific. I think you might have your hands full with both of them though... y'know, you have to start slow... pace yourself. Enter the contest; maybe you can win the dinner, yeah?

And thanks for the compliments about the show. A lot of people busted their asses on this thing, and I'm just glad people like it. I'm not sure what "giggleshitting" is, but I'll take it as a compliment...;>

Eli Cross
11-08-2007, 11:34 PM
Hmm, this sounds interesting. Maybe we need to start a new thread and open the topic up for discussion... :)

Don, when I can talk about it, I will, believe me...

Houstondon
11-09-2007, 03:00 PM
Don, when I can talk about it, I will, believe me...

Hmmm, very interesting. I think the last time you said something like that, you directed Corruption and prepared to offer some ultra hardcore porn via your new website... Keep us posted!

310HSSA
11-10-2007, 03:57 PM
310,

Yeah, both Eva and Paulina are pretty terrific. I think you might have your hands full with both of them though... y'know, you have to start slow... pace yourself. Enter the contest; maybe you can win the dinner, yeah?

And thanks for the compliments about the show. A lot of people busted their asses on this thing, and I'm just glad people like it. I'm not sure what "giggleshitting" is, but I'll take it as a compliment...;>

i wouldnt want dinner with both a the same time, id rather have them one on one so i can learn more about each girl. all i need is an hour or two with each and a pool table and ill know more than some of their good friends.

giggleshitting is when you just keep giggling and saying "oh shit!" because some thing was really funny or shocking.

Terminal
12-24-2007, 06:11 PM
I think Extras are important for the fact that buyers should get their money's worth. One of the more impressive extras so far has been a free DVD featuring four hours of clips from past porn releases which inadvertently ended up being better than the actual movie.

I mostly want behind the scenes, and interviews, and bloopers wouldn't hurt, either.

I think consumers deserve better extras.

jonnyquest
12-24-2007, 09:48 PM
I mostly want behind the scenes, and interviews, and bloopers wouldn't hurt, either.The behind the scenes can be very entertaining. My favorite "BTS" contents are outtakes, bloopers, interviews, tease, masturbation. I especially enjoy the post-sex interviews. Something about the freshly-fucked vibe; the girls seem much more "real" and the oft-portrayed pretense is gone.

Terminal
12-24-2007, 11:46 PM
The behind the scenes can be very entertaining. My favorite "BTS" contents are outtakes, bloopers, interviews, tease, masturbation. I especially enjoy the post-sex interviews. Something about the freshly-fucked vibe; the girls seem much more "real" and the oft-portrayed pretense is gone.

The behind the scenes from BurningAngel.com was fun but too short. It's tough finding a middle ground, I'll tell ya. In "House on Horny Hill" they had a great series of interviews, but I rarely ever see bloopers.

One of the funniest clips I've ever seen involves a porn star about to piss on a guy's face in a bathtub. She mounts the sides, and accidentally slips squashing his balls with her high heels.

I was about to piss laughing.

It's a shame I don't get to see too much of that.

310HSSA
12-27-2007, 09:14 PM
i know what clip your talking about. that was riley mason who stomped the guys nuts. funny shit, i couldnt stop laughing. the guy wanted a golden shower and got a heel in the nuts. its a sad sad world when a guy cant just get a simple piss bath. that riley chick is pretty cute, i wish she would film more.

Terminal
12-27-2007, 09:58 PM
i know what clip your talking about. that was riley mason who stomped the guys nuts. funny shit, i couldnt stop laughing. the guy wanted a golden shower and got a heel in the nuts. its a sad sad world when a guy cant just get a simple piss bath. that riley chick is pretty cute, i wish she would film more.

Thank you! Yes, that's the clip. I saw it over at one of my favorite porn sites Flesh bot.