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devilshalo
02-10-2007, 07:44 PM
I am sure it has! I have been with them for seversal years and dont think i know you. We seem to keep growing by leaps and bounds!

xoxo,
Megan
Well, when I left, it was around Shane's World 23. I was editing the Slumber Party series (#'s 9, 10, 11, 12) and some scenes for Slumber Party and Pornological. I also did some mail order fulfillment for them and ccBill processessing. They were putting together all the elements for the dvd of Shane's World 19.

It was the fiasco of what happened with SP12 that got me fired, less for my ignorance and more for their negligence. It was just Hector and Jenny at that time and I guess they were overwhelmed that when I asked for them to QC my edits (and I always asked them before mastering), they kept saying.. "no no, we trust your abilities." Well, it wasn't my abilities that got the video recalled after it hit street date. I'm sure when you relay this story, they'll know who you're talking about.

yashan
02-11-2007, 09:15 AM
=Well, it wasn't my abilities that got the video recalled after it hit street date.

I little off topic but I'll admit I'm curious, so I'm going to post anyway... :D

What got the video recalled? If this has been discussed in another thread, I apologize in advance. :)

devilshalo
02-11-2007, 10:23 AM
I little off topic but I'll admit I'm curious, so I'm going to post anyway... :D

What got the video recalled? If this has been discussed in another thread, I apologize in advance. :)
I was an editor, this was my first editing gig. And I edited, not knowing all of the rules and restrictions of the porn industry of what you can and cannot show. This was why I would always ask them to QC my work before mastering, always. If you are aware of any Shane's World videos, they are shot gonzo and usually show the stars/starlets out and about amongst the crowd having fun wherever they are at. In this case, they were frolicking on a crowded beach in Cancun. I understood discretion and made sure no one other than the stars faces were recognizible. I tried to keep people out of the foreground as much as possible. Since the time in the online bay was expensive, we didn't want to have to blur people's faces due to cost. This was before Final Cut Pro and I was doing rough edits tape to tape prior to final mastering. So from my understanding of what Jenny told me, was that in the distance, totally unrecognizable, you could see families (which meant minors). So that was it. I guess they re-edited and re-mastered it because SP#12 is available. Whether it was true or not, I don't know. At the time it was a side job for me, so being let go was a bit of a relief.

yashan
02-11-2007, 09:14 PM
Wow. Interesting story devilshalo. Sorry it cost you your job but still interesting nonetheless.

dolphinboy
02-12-2007, 01:28 AM
Shane's World is very good if you don't like the tame features from Vivid or want to see something other than one gonzo scene after another.

Still, Shane's World doesn't make tons of vids and they far too often seem to be rushed or not well planned out. What bothers me is that Shane's World's "reality" porn could be excellent and they really don't seem to make the effort to get it there.

Surfer Girls 1, by the way, has MOST of the qualities that I would look for in a GREAT reality porn feature. That was just short of being a perfect reality porn flick.

The Penny Flame stuff has been the best since, but, even then, as in Penny Flame's Out of Control, they seem to not be trying to put the same effort as they do for other releases.

Their best stuff mixes real porn, the girls hooking up (usually just handjobs) with real guys, comedy, a real flow to the story/adventure, and some of the best and funniest extras you'll find. In a good Shane's World film you get to "know" the performers probably as well as you possibly can without really knowing them and that's interesting as a fan and can be damned hot or just funny.

They brough in Devinn Lane who made 2 stinkers (although anything with Sunny Lane is worth at least a rental) and now the have ex-mega star Devon under contract. It will be interesting to see her first feature. Still, with just a little more effort and a lot more Penny Flame, Shane's World films would be a whole lot better.

Not that I've given it much thought. ;)

Houstondon
02-12-2007, 06:36 AM
1) "It was the fiasco of what happened with SP12 that got me fired, less for my ignorance and more for their negligence."
2) "And I edited, not knowing all of the rules and restrictions of the porn industry of what you can and cannot show."
3) "...you could see families (which meant minors)."

Devil, I have to give you credit for being more honest and open than anyone else I've met in the porn industry at admitting such a fundamental lack of understanding of their job. Even though you spun it off as their fault at first, you came through in the end and for that alone, I tip my hat to you. Not knowing that showing minors in a porno is a bad idea is indicative of a mindset that simply can't be taught regarding the basics of common sense so admiting it in a public forum takes a lot of balls. :bow:

Houstondon
02-12-2007, 06:54 AM
"Shane's World is very good..."

I promote them as a truly alternative form of porn for the reasons you suggest (among others).

"...too often seem to be rushed or not well planned out."

I think the kind of spontaneity that makes most of their titles work is due to the way they "look" like they aren't planned out as much as the unplanned nature of many scenes.

"Surfer Girls 1, by the way, has MOST of the qualities that I would look for in a GREAT reality porn feature. That was just short of being a perfect reality porn flick."

Hmmm, I wish I had seen that one now that you mention it.

The Penny Flame stuff has been the best since, but, even then, as in Penny Flame's Out of Control, they seem to not be trying to put the same effort as they do for other releases.

"Their best stuff mixes real porn, the girls hooking up (usually just handjobs) with real guys, comedy, a real flow to the story/adventure, and some of the best and funniest extras you'll find. In a good Shane's World film you get to "know" the performers probably as well as you possibly can without really knowing them and that's interesting as a fan and can be damned hot or just funny."

Sometimes, the best titles for sex are less interesting in terms of humor and entertainment (two of the reasons I like so much of their stuff). I agree in part with your comments but find their relatively unscripted series (the ones without a flow or story as you put it) to be better on average.

"They brough in Devinn Lane who made 2 stinkers (although anything with Sunny Lane is worth at least a rental) and now the have ex-mega star Devon under contract. It will be interesting to see her first feature."

I reviewed three of her directorial efforts for them (Slumber Party 20, Guide to Strap On Sex, and Swingers) and while I can see why she was released from her contract early (she really didn't offer much to them), I didn't think they were "stinkers". I look forward to seeing what Devon comes up with for them myself and have my doubts about her but Megan has suggested I wait and see how well she fits in (unlike Devinn and Tim Von Swine; she at least seems to understand the type of mindset college age partiers have).

"Still, with just a little more effort and a lot more Penny Flame, Shane's World films would be a whole lot better."

I like Penny's work for them myself and hope they work together more (Penny told me at last month's show that she'd like to work with them more too, as did a few of their other semi-regulars like Julia Bond and Johnny Castle). To me, Penny captures the goofy, free flowing spirit of the company better than anyone else; including the original work by Shane herself (before Ms. Grant took over).

SWorldMegan
02-12-2007, 09:46 AM
Shane's World is very good if you don't like the tame features from Vivid or want to see something other than one gonzo scene after another.

Hey that's what we think too!! LOL

Still, Shane's World doesn't make tons of vids and they far too often seem to be rushed or not well planned out. What bothers me is that Shane's World's "reality" porn could be excellent and they really don't seem to make the effort to get it there.

You would be right and wrong. They are planned but when you shoot documentary style ... to be blunt, shit happens. Plans falls through, girls missed their plane, locals figure out who you are, etc. Some movies we have very few bumps in the road ... some have pot holes.

I noticed you put reality in quotes ... i swear it's real. Well the realest thing out there. Obviously we hire pornstars for the trips and at some point hope they have sex with someone LOL. We just run the cameras 24/7 on a shoot and then edit it down for entertainment. We always try and be really honest wth our fans. The only time i know of that we werent (it wasn't our fault) was in Devinn Lane's swiners. One of the ladies at the swingers club didn't tell us she was a pornstar. She acted as if she was just there to hang out and wanted to get in on the action. So that's the only time i can say we lied about who someone was ... but we didn't find out who she was until the first review. The reviewer had reviewed other movies she was in.

Surfer Girls 1, by the way, has MOST of the qualities that I would look for in a GREAT reality porn feature. That was just short of being a perfect reality porn flick.

Then you will be excited to know Surfer Girls 2 is coming this year ... and in HD!

The Penny Flame stuff has been the best since, but, even then, as in Penny Flame's Out of Control, they seem to not be trying to put the same effort as they do for other releases.

Actually with that movie, Penny wrote most of that movie if not all of it. Some of the scenes were funnier then others ... i totally agree. It was suppose to be SNL meets GONZO movies. It was her and our first shot at something like that ... everyone has a learning curve.

Their best stuff mixes real porn, the girls hooking up (usually just handjobs) with real guys, comedy, a real flow to the story/adventure, and some of the best and funniest extras you'll find. In a good Shane's World film you get to "know" the performers probably as well as you possibly can without really knowing them and that's interesting as a fan and can be damned hot or just funny.

Can you read my mind?? LOL I often use the tag line ' Shane's World: Get to know your pornstars!"

They brough in Devinn Lane who made 2 stinkers (although anything with Sunny Lane is worth at least a rental) and now the have ex-mega star Devon under contract. It will be interesting to see her first feature. Still, with just a little more effort and a lot more Penny Flame, Shane's World films would be a whole lot better.

I wouldn't say stinkers ... I thought Slumber Party 20 was great! I havn't watched the other ones enough to say yah! or nah!

We will see with Devon ... so far from what i have seen (it's in the editing phase) it looks great!

As for Penny, she just signed on for another year! So you can always expect more from her witrh us. She is a very good fit with our company. We sent her to Amsterdam for Blazed and Confused 3 which will be coming this year too.

Not that I've given it much thought. ;)

I love that you havbe! We want feedback ... god or bad. It's sometimes hard to get feedback on your movies because people are shy. ANYTIME you see something you love or hate let me know!! That's actually exactly why i signed up here =)



xoxo,
Megan

Nick Danger
02-12-2007, 09:56 AM
Swirled Megan. Mmmm.

devilshalo
02-12-2007, 11:05 AM
1) "It was the fiasco of what happened with SP12 that got me fired, less for my ignorance and more for their negligence."
2) "And I edited, not knowing all of the rules and restrictions of the porn industry of what you can and cannot show."
3) "...you could see families (which meant minors)."

Devil, I have to give you credit for being more honest and open than anyone else I've met in the porn industry at admitting such a fundamental lack of understanding of their job. Even though you spun it off as their fault at first, you came through in the end and for that alone, I tip my hat to you. Not knowing that showing minors in a porno is a bad idea is indicative of a mindset that simply can't be taught regarding the basics of common sense so admiting it in a public forum takes a lot of balls. :bow:
Well, to be honest, it was my first editing gig. So I edited like any other project I had done at that time (which were student projects). In fact, I initially went in as just a PA. But they gave me a sex scene in SW#19 to edit and gave me the gig based on that. As far as SP#12, the people in the far background weren't in the scenes involving sex and as I said, they were unrecognizable blips playing in the surf. If there was some pr0n handbook that was handed out, then maybe I'd know better. I was a n00b. Other than understanding that if peoples' faces other than the talent were recognizable they would need releases, I had no clue and the thought about it didn't even cross my mind. Again, if either had bothered to QC the rough cut and let me know, I had more than enough time to re-edit. Oh well. It was an experience. One I wouldn't mind jumping back into as a director. Yes, Hector did want to offer me some title to direct, but gonzo isn't my forte. It's just something a little too raw for me.

dolphinboy
02-13-2007, 12:12 AM
xoxo,
Megan

Well, if you really feel like you want to make the highest quality films possible and you're serious about taking suggestions, I would suggest that you hire someone from dvdtalk with a serious expertise in what makes Shane World's movies work and what doesn't. Someone who can be there on set at all times to make sure great scenes aren't lost and that if things change, someone who can quickly adapt and know how to create even better scenes even under extremely difficult circumstances. This person could have the word dolphin in his screen name, but I guess you could go with someone else.

For example, had I been there for Snow Trip, I would have NEVER let the Penny Flame-Dani Woodward, should have been a legendary lesbian hookup, scene die on the vine.

You needed someone there who knew that was going to make a hot scene and, clearly, some of what goes on IS planned, so there was simply no excuse for whomever was involved in that project to have let that happen unless Penny and Dani didn't want it to. That was a time when even if it ended naturally, sure everyone was drunk too, but someone should have gotten that scene OR, at the very least, they should have noted to add a scene between the two, had a talk with them, and then let things happen at another time to complete what they started.

If I'd been on the set, you'd be holding an AVN award for that scene.

I know you make a variety of reality styled porn and the college invasion stuff is bound to be crazy so I don't really pay as close attention or judge it like I would Surfer Girls or Blazed and Confused.

But the latter style films are more story based. It's like taking a trip or an adventure with porn stars. Those films should always be 2 discs because they provide an amazing amount of bloopers and bonus footage that is better than the special features on any other porn film. But then, for no reason, on Penny's Out of Control, you have 10 minutes of not very good bonus features. Of course, that wasn't one of your "adventure" styled films, but with Penny Flame involved, you could have have had a BTS featurette following Penny around as she put the film together. Penny, alone, would have provided an incredible amount of entertainment to something like that and she actually seems to make the other girls show sides of themselves that viewers never see.

Surfer Girls 1 was very good starting with the cast. Your headliners included Brittney Skye, Teagan, and Katie Gold. With Britteny and Katie around, you know as a viewer that you have two women who aren't going to let things get dull. I thought Katie was a natural for that type of film. But you also had the best "story" and flow. You followed the girls from the mainland, on the plane, to get their bags, to their jeep, to the hotel, to meet guys, to the beach, etc.

It could have been a home movie and that's what got me interested in Shane's World. My wife and I, at that point, were just starting to watch adult movies together and she was in love with Penny Flame, who I think might have still been doing only girls back then. It's ironic that she would eventually not only do men, but end up with your company. But since I wasn't quite at the point where my wife was enjoying more hardcore adult movies, Surfer Girls was really something we both LOVED.

The scenes with the real guys were pretty good and, I know people whined about too many handjobs, but I actually thought there was plenty of everything in that film. You can't REALLY expect these women to have sex with total strangers. But since then, it does seem in the adventure style, maybe because of some of the negative feedback, you've cut back on those kinds of scenes. I don't like that.

But, at the time, I remember reviewers debating whether Brittney really had sex with some strange foreigner. Well, that dude has been in a lot of porn, so clearly she didn't just happen to meet him, but as the filmed progressed the "plot" has Katie being upset that Brittney had sex and she didn't, so she picks up on some very young hawaiian guy and, for the life of me, I still can't tell whether that was a real amateur she has sex with or not. But just the idea that it was made that an incredible scene and if people haven't seen your films that's, in my opinion, Shane's World at its very best.

You also lingered more in Surfer Girls and we saw the girls waking up and making breakfast and even spending some quality time surfing. I know some people just want non stop gaping, but I love seeing Teagan, Brittney, and Katie trying to surf. It didn't take anything away from the film that it wasn't nearly wall to wall sex. In fact, there was plenty of it. It might have been in the special features or in the film, I can't remember, but there was also a much talked about scene where some real guy from Hawaii is getting worked over by Teagan and Katie and he actually pushes Katie away and tells her he'd prefer it be just him and Teagan. I was mad at the guy for being such a dick and so were some other reviewers. When in porn do you have the situation arise where you have the opportunity during a film to get angry? That's why it was such good reality porn. And you could have cut that out so as to not make Katie look bad, but she handled it well and it was that idiot's loss because Katie was a really cutie and probably more of a pro than Teagan at that point.

In the special features of Blazed and Confused 2, there are some parts that are just as hot as some of the scenes in the film. I have never gotten disappointed when another porn film's special features have been over, but when you could make several more films out of your outtakes. Give us more. I'm telling you, you clearly have a lot of fans, but those who prefer the hardcore stuff will come around. You just need to keep it up. Honestly, I thought Casey Parker Girl Next Door was a mixed bag, but you tapped into something everyone who watches porn dig, even if they won't say so, you got this cute, "innocent" girl to let you into her life at college and you whisked her away to the world of porn. Some of it didn't work, but I know people really liked Casey and liked the story-even if she did write you and it wasn't planned. It's a great fantasy.

I think the porn star you're referring to is that old, unattractive lady who only used one name and it starts with a D. I wouldn't have cast her, but those 2 trip movies just didn't have the fun of your better stuff, which quite a bit of has come from Penny lately. I forgot she did a Girls Night Out too. But the trips to Texas and Jamaica had very little flow in them and I don't really think you got that feeling of really getting a glimpse of getting to know the stars...even if that too is just an illusion...you'd like to get the feeling you're on the trip and Kinzie Kenner or Riley Mason is talking to you and then setting up a chair at the end of the bed, so you can get a really good view of them in action and then, afterwards, you go out for some food and a drink.

There was also a Girls Night Out maybe a year ago and I think it might have been a Penny directed one, where she and another girl are in a hot-tub and the eventual scene is about the other girl waiting for some guy to have sex with her. There is not one person in the world who wasn't watching that and waiting and waiting and waiting for Penny and the girl to due a lesbian scene and it never happened. As an "employee" of Shane's World who loves my job, I would have felt it was my duty to share with Penny and whomever else was their to supervise the shoot that the audience was going to want and expect something there and it would have been hot to give them what they want.

Penny has written on ADT that girls usually just do one scene in a film and that she's got a lot to do when she's directing. But as we "talked" about it, even she agreed, with the help of other fan input, that a Shane's World film can't follow specific rules. If you think you have a hot scene...shoot it! And Penny even agreed that when she involved that fans probably do expect to see her a little bit more. So throw in a b/b and g/g and she's not too over-worked and doesn't have to have intercourse more than once. Especially, when it's a Penny made film, she really helps the flow and the story by kind of leading the cast where she wants them to go without making it too obvious to the viewers, but we want to see more of her, even when it's not sex, because wherever she goes, hilarity usually follows.

If she ever needs a writing partner who wouldn't charge, you might be able to find someone at dvdtalk with a screen name that has the world dolphin in it. But I might be wrong.

Again, I wouldn't want anyone to think that I'm over-thinking things. ;)

PS-Still sad about Lunchbox

Houstondon
02-13-2007, 06:21 AM
"Well, if you really feel like you want to make the highest quality films possible and you're serious about taking suggestions, I would suggest that you hire someone from dvdtalk with a serious expertise in what makes Shane World's movies work and what doesn't."

Awwww, I already have a job but I appreciate your confidence in me. ;)

Seriously though, I like Penny as much as most folks and every time I see her at a show, we kid around about something or other but you seem to be under the impression that everyone else feels like you and I do. Shane's World, like all other companies, can't just cater to a handful of people, even a handful of slavering fanboys at a website. I doubt that hiring a fanboy from a website forum without any proven expertise would yield any better results than a help wanted ad circulated among industry insiders too but we all have our delusions to live with.

One of the things that is cool about titles from Shane's World is that they are unpredictable to a large degree. They shoot tons of footage and edit it down according to a particular set of goals (unlike gonzo where most of the footage shot is used if it looks good; making SW titles far more difficult and time consuming to handle in post production). You can't know that a particular scene would have worked or not based strictly on what a performer told you any more than you can predict whether something will win a particular award or not (and I doubt that "Cameraman #1" or "Cameraman #2", their primary directors these days, would appreciate someone second guessing every decision they made). Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Dani got less screen time in SW #36 due to the way she treated the acting director on the set but you'd have to pour over dozens of hours of footage to see what "really" happened there and not just the cultivated porn version.

In all, I hope they use Penny more but unlike you and Art, I don't want to see any "b/b" action in their titles and I suspect that if they started adding that kind of thing in, they'd find their sales dropping off quickly.

SWorldMegan
02-13-2007, 09:41 AM
All these things are an endless debate for us too! Something else to remember ... the cast doesn't always get along. For example if you watch the BTS of Shane's World 36 you will see ... the girls didn't always get along. This isn't in reference to 36 but sometimes 2 pornstars will start a scene ... that we know they are doing "just for the money" and we don't think there will be any heat ... we won't let it continue. We want good sex in our movies too.

Surfer Girls was a perfect movie for us. That is what we hope to get out of every movie. Sometimes it works ... but not everytime. I think Blazed and Confused 2 was amazing too! But that movie gets little recognition. i wish it got a lot more! I thought it was one of the best "couples" movie we ever did. But it didn't excluded anytype of fan either.

As for Penny we would love to do more with her. But she is a very busy girl. She directs for us and it's still sometimes hard to get her booked for an additional day or scene. Trust us ... we use her almost every chance we can get.

But as Don said ... we can't cater to just Penny fans. We actually dont try to "cater" to anyone. We just try to make fun stuff. We hope everyone likes it as much as we do. We are quite the odd office ... far too much beer and rubber band wars LOL


and no worries ... there will be no B/B action in any release not meant for that market. Damn typos LOL

P.S. I miss lunchbox ... Penny use to bring him to the office! he was sooo freaking cute. He was soooo teeny tiny. I feel for her loss.

xoxo,
Megan

SWorldMegan
02-13-2007, 09:41 AM
Anyone have any suggestions on that HD question i asked? Since we are talking about Part 2 of Surfer Girls coming.

xoxo,
Megan

XavierMike
02-13-2007, 12:29 PM
^^^ I would like to see the HD released seperately. Since I use my HD player as my main player, I'd rather not pay for the sd dvd if I didn't have too.

dolphinboy
02-13-2007, 02:19 PM
"Well, if you really feel like you want to make the highest quality films possible and you're serious about taking suggestions, I would suggest that you hire someone from dvdtalk with a serious expertise in what makes Shane World's movies work and what doesn't."

Awwww, I already have a job but I appreciate your confidence in me. ;)

Seriously though, I like Penny as much as most folks and every time I see her at a show, we kid around about something or other but you seem to be under the impression that everyone else feels like you and I do. Shane's World, like all other companies, can't just cater to a handful of people, even a handful of slavering fanboys at a website. I doubt that hiring a fanboy from a website forum without any proven expertise would yield any better results than a help wanted ad circulated among industry insiders too but we all have our delusions to live with.

One of the things that is cool about titles from Shane's World is that they are unpredictable to a large degree. They shoot tons of footage and edit it down according to a particular set of goals (unlike gonzo where most of the footage shot is used if it looks good; making SW titles far more difficult and time consuming to handle in post production). You can't know that a particular scene would have worked or not based strictly on what a performer told you any more than you can predict whether something will win a particular award or not (and I doubt that "Cameraman #1" or "Cameraman #2", their primary directors these days, would appreciate someone second guessing every decision they made). Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Dani got less screen time in SW #36 due to the way she treated the acting director on the set but you'd have to pour over dozens of hours of footage to see what "really" happened there and not just the cultivated porn version.

In all, I hope they use Penny more but unlike you and Art, I don't want to see any "b/b" action in their titles and I suspect that if they started adding that kind of thing in, they'd find their sales dropping off quickly.

First, with all due respect to anyone who might be gay, b/b isn't anything I'd ever want to see. That was a mistake. I meant b/g and g/g. I think the typo was pretty clear, since I was referring to getting Penny in 2 scenes, when she directs, rather than 1, so I'm not sure how you could have Penny in a b/b scene unless she can grow a penis when she needs one.

Also, it seemed pretty clear to me that I wasn't actually asking for a job, but joking around because of how much attention I pay to Shane's World releases. My wife would never let me go to the AVN show, not that I really would want to, so working in the industry would be a big fat no. I can't afford the paycut anyway.

Finally, about Penny. My comment was about more Penny in Penny directed films. Not in every Shane's World movie. Even Penny agreed that people expect to see her a bit more in the films that she directs.

PS-Megan, there sure seemed to be heat between Dani and Penny. In fact, in just the short time that scene actually lasted, smoke started coming out of my ass.

Houstondon
02-14-2007, 06:50 AM
Megan: I'd like to see them bundled together at first. That way, people will have the best of both worlds and not have to sacrifice the extras (which your people excel at) for the better picture & audio quality.

Dolphin, when you say or imply something once in a single post; it's a joke. When you refer to it repeatedly, it's begging for a job. ;) You're right though, for most people, working in porn would require a cut in pay but you gotta love those fringes benefits lol.
As far as the Penny flicks go, I think it's safe to say that you, I, and Penny are in agreement that she needs to be in them more (and the other titles if possible). If most male directors can be in multiple scenes per movie, I somehow think that someone as hot, intelligent, and gifted as Penny can swing it too.

In most of the movies released by SW, there are gals getting multiple scenes and plenty of non-sex footage so Penny should be afforded the same treatment but from the comments made in your earlier posting, it sounded like you wanted her in every aspect of them (including special extras) but my understanding, provided in part by yourself, is that she isn't comfortable tackling the added responsibilities of being director and doing a lot more stuff in front of the camera. If given a choice, I'd rather see more of her in front of the camera (sex and non-sex) than see her direct if the addition duties weigh her down too much. :)

BTW, I'm agreeing with most of what you said (to a degree), just pointing out that the way you said it isn't going to serve our common interest all that well. I hate that SW usually doesn't identify their directors and editors (in general, that allows a fan and/or critic to have a feel for what a movie will be like and expect) just as I really wish they would grow enough to release titles more frequently (and keep the same level of quality). They've hit a few bumps in the road addressing these concerns but I applaud their efforts just the same.

PennyFlame
02-14-2007, 10:20 AM
hey there guys.....first post. Good morning. How ya doin....blah blah blahs....
actually I wrote this long winded response last night only to be timed out and have my whole melodramatic answers disappear. oh well I suppose I'll start again. And make it a bit quicker....
1. that scene between me and Danni was not planned. Therefore, there was no money in the budget that would allow the scene to be used without danni and I being paid. Money is a bitch, but hell, we gotta pay rent somehow.
2. I just spoke with the kind folks over at Shanes World, and although i'm going to be in one more scene than the rest of my movies (starting with Blazed 3), there are plenty of great porn stars that deserve the light. And I would like them to shine in it as well. The reason there aren't that many girl girls is because that is not our market really. I mean yeah, it's hot and sexy, but at the end of the day, the big bosses would rather pay out 1600 for a boy girl than 1400 for a girl girl. In my next movie, which I'm planning right now, there may be some girl girlish sheninigans, but the likelihood of a full scene is slim. But I might jump into another sex scene....we'll see.
3. please allow me to clarify what Reality porn means......first of all there can only be so much unplanned chaos (which is why religion is such a hit), because I gaurantee you if you have a group of people and tell them to do what they want it will be boring as hell. In fact, I've been on a ton of attempted reality porn sets and Shanes World is as real as it gets. I've even done a reality behind the scenes deal with SHowtime for the remake of Debbie Does Dallas (viv ent.), and we did more takes for the reality guys than for vivid's camera guys. If you ask me, more than one take is not reality. It's set up. Especially when someone off camera has to tell you what to say. Then it's a script. In Shanes World stuff, there is no script~ (except in Out of Control...which was obviously my first attempt at something entirely new), and if you have ever been on one of my sets, then you know deep in your heart that Penny Flames Plans are very limited. I write outlines for the day, which I talk about with my camera men, the ever talented and awesome Hambone Jones (who did Blazed 2, and caught some of the craziest shots ever) and Smoke. And we then let the essay unravel naturally. Example:
Day 1) Hey don....we're gonna fuck sometime today, but don't tell me when, and I wont tell you when and it will be a surprise and it will be fun.
Then to crowd_ "hey folksies, lets go hunt for waterfalls okay? I've always wanted to see a water fall....Jack are you really gonna wear that speedo?"
Day 2) Hey dolphin, you gotta stick it in Taryn sometime today, but lets keep it on the surprise tip....
Then to crowd "dudes and dudettes,how do you all feel about sailing? because I've never done it, and I think we should probably discuss the finer points in the bar before we go....hell no I'm not driving! You must be trippin. Hambone, do you think it'd be hard to film on a sail boat homie? with all that movin and shit? whatever, lets figure it out... "
Day 3.) yo, okay, so it's no biggie nobody fucked today.....actually, it was kinda fun walking around in the rain looking for the ultimate joint rolling competition.....yes jack, you can go fuck a few more hookers if you're back by 5am and bring me some sort of delicious Space Cakes....(which he did because we had a taxi to the airport at 5:15am).
To self...."thank god you video taped everything Penny flame, because otherwise people would ask you what happened and you'd just laugh and say, ah....we pretty much just kicked it...."

To sum it all up, outlines, and then the natural unraveling of the day. You can predetermine some things, like what you're gonna do, where you're gonna go, and what personality types come along, but at the end of the day, Pornstars generally aren't the best actors. Even if you just want them to act naturally. Funny like that huh?
And on a side note, thank you for the kind words about Lunch. He was my little dream box and I miss him dearly. But thank you.....your kindness warms my heart.
I think I might have got it all out, and sorry if I didn't, but now as an official part of the group I'd be glad to answer any questions. Thank you for all your comments and compliments....I appreciate every word. Hope you all have lovely days, and see ya later.
HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN

dolphinboy
02-14-2007, 03:32 PM
hey there guys.....first post. Good morning. How ya doin....blah blah blahs....
actually I wrote this long winded response last night only to be timed out and have my whole melodramatic answers disappear. oh well I suppose I'll start again. And make it a bit quicker....
1. that scene between me and Danni was not planned. Therefore, there was no money in the budget that would allow the scene to be used without danni and I being paid. Money is a bitch, but hell, we gotta pay rent somehow.
2. I just spoke with the kind folks over at Shanes World, and although i'm going to be in one more scene than the rest of my movies (starting with Blazed 3), there are plenty of great porn stars that deserve the light. And I would like them to shine in it as well. The reason there aren't that many girl girls is because that is not our market really. I mean yeah, it's hot and sexy, but at the end of the day, the big bosses would rather pay out 1600 for a boy girl than 1400 for a girl girl. In my next movie, which I'm planning right now, there may be some girl girlish sheninigans, but the likelihood of a full scene is slim. But I might jump into another sex scene....we'll see.
3. please allow me to clarify what Reality porn means......first of all there can only be so much unplanned chaos (which is why religion is such a hit), because I gaurantee you if you have a group of people and tell them to do what they want it will be boring as hell. In fact, I've been on a ton of attempted reality porn sets and Shanes World is as real as it gets. I've even done a reality behind the scenes deal with SHowtime for the remake of Debbie Does Dallas (viv ent.), and we did more takes for the reality guys than for vivid's camera guys. If you ask me, more than one take is not reality. It's set up. Especially when someone off camera has to tell you what to say. Then it's a script. In Shanes World stuff, there is no script~ (except in Out of Control...which was obviously my first attempt at something entirely new), and if you have ever been on one of my sets, then you know deep in your heart that Penny Flames Plans are very limited. I write outlines for the day, which I talk about with my camera men, the ever talented and awesome Hambone Jones (who did Blazed 2, and caught some of the craziest shots ever) and Smoke. And we then let the essay unravel naturally. Example:
Day 1) Hey don....we're gonna fuck sometime today, but don't tell me when, and I wont tell you when and it will be a surprise and it will be fun.
Then to crowd_ "hey folksies, lets go hunt for waterfalls okay? I've always wanted to see a water fall....Jack are you really gonna wear that speedo?"
Day 2) Hey dolphin, you gotta stick it in Taryn sometime today, but lets keep it on the surprise tip....
Then to crowd "dudes and dudettes,how do you all feel about sailing? because I've never done it, and I think we should probably discuss the finer points in the bar before we go....hell no I'm not driving! You must be trippin. Hambone, do you think it'd be hard to film on a sail boat homie? with all that movin and shit? whatever, lets figure it out... "
Day 3.) yo, okay, so it's no biggie nobody fucked today.....actually, it was kinda fun walking around in the rain looking for the ultimate joint rolling competition.....yes jack, you can go fuck a few more hookers if you're back by 5am and bring me some sort of delicious Space Cakes....(which he did because we had a taxi to the airport at 5:15am).
To self...."thank god you video taped everything Penny flame, because otherwise people would ask you what happened and you'd just laugh and say, ah....we pretty much just kicked it...."

To sum it all up, outlines, and then the natural unraveling of the day. You can predetermine some things, like what you're gonna do, where you're gonna go, and what personality types come along, but at the end of the day, Pornstars generally aren't the best actors. Even if you just want them to act naturally. Funny like that huh?
And on a side note, thank you for the kind words about Lunch. He was my little dream box and I miss him dearly. But thank you.....your kindness warms my heart.
I think I might have got it all out, and sorry if I didn't, but now as an official part of the group I'd be glad to answer any questions. Thank you for all your comments and compliments....I appreciate every word. Hope you all have lovely days, and see ya later.
HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN

I'd like to respond to this, but I have very time for that right now.

Hi Penny, long time listener, first time caller.

I'm pretty sure Don wouldn't have a problem with this, but could we make a trade? Can Don have Taryn and can I have a scene with you? ;)

I know you've been writing about being in love-congrats Penny!

I know you've addressed the fact that you're still staying in the biz because you have a plan about financial security being taken care of before you leave, but I have this terrible fear that you might leave earlier because of this.

A true fan of yours would rather you be happy than to have you stay in porn, but if you do leave can I get a little heads up, so that I can get back in touch with my old dealer and rent a motel in the seedy side of town? Will you say goodbye? Will you invite me to the wedding?

If you really see the end coming, start using all that dough to start your own company and create Penny Porn, so that your fans can continue to follow and support you. How much would you charge for some original Penny art?

Just going back to my posts on Surfer Girls, it's clear that I like Shane's World a lot, but I think they are very lucky to have you. You are awesome and I know it's the adult forum and that you're a porn star, but besides the obvious stuff about your looks and your performance, you seem like a great and incredibly fun person.

I hope that, even though you're SO busy, that you consider posting more at dvdtalk. And not just in the adult forum. I think you'd like our music forum and the tv forum and I'm sure we'd love to know what movies you like over in the movie forum. But if you really want to cause everyone to flip out, jump into one of the hateful debates that often go on in the political forum. That would be the only thing short of a mod locking a thread that would get those folks away from arguing all the time!

PS-If I front the money, can you give Dani a call, do that scene, and get Shane's World to edit it back into a director's cut special edition of Snow Trip?

MartinBlank
02-14-2007, 11:54 PM
This has got to be some kind of record for number of words in an adult thread. :lol:

SWorldMegan
02-15-2007, 10:08 AM
HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN HI MEGAN

I am so glad you made it here lady! I knew you would like these guys.

Penny pretty much laid it all out ... most honest person i know.

I think she does a fab job and part of her charm and awesome-ness (not a word huh?) is that is she goes with the flow and doesn't plan every detail out. Thats why her movies seem like so much fun ... because everyone is actually having a blast and doesn't know what's next.

Ms. Flame ... your my favorite and you know it =)

xoxo,
Megan

soggypie
02-15-2007, 12:38 PM
:eyebrow: soooooooo
any free goodies

dolphinboy
02-15-2007, 11:44 PM
Penny the F*cking Flame


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/JaseXF/penny.jpg


Ready, able, and willing to put on the fire in your pants from watching her do a scene!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/JaseXF/penny4.jpg

Michael Corvin
02-16-2007, 06:56 AM
This has got to be some kind of record for number of words in an adult thread. :lol:

rotfl

McHawkson
02-16-2007, 12:23 PM
Ummmmmmm, Penny Flame... :drool:


More!!! :clap:

Houstondon
02-16-2007, 03:43 PM
Penny: Welcome aboard and thanks for the head's up (much of it was similar to what I've been told but it's good hearing it from you).
"Hey don....we're gonna fuck sometime today, but don't tell me when, and I wont tell you when and it will be a surprise and it will be fun."

Yes!!!!!!! lol

Dolphin: "I'm pretty sure Don wouldn't have a problem with this, but could we make a trade? Can Don have Taryn and can I have a scene with you?"

No thanks! Taryn's a hotty but Penny's one in a million (or more). Thanks for the pictures though.

"If you really see the end coming, start using all that dough to start your own company and create Penny Porn, so that your fans can continue to follow and support you."

Unless she can figure out a way to take better advantage of the current distribution system, this would be a bad business decision. Most companies lost tons of money or their return on investment was the pits in recent years. I'd be supportive but given her work with Shane's World, the best solution would involve her working with them more (if you think she's not in her titles enough now, add in all the administrative junk of running her own production company. Maybe she can sign up and be the spokesmodel for Brian Surewood's new business venture though (she'd be perfect!).

Megan: "I knew you would like these guys."

She can always rely on us for kind words. I received a couple of "tsk tsk" emails from another reviewer (different webite) in regards to my reviews on her Blazed and Confused titles not long ago. I was taken to task for promoting drug use (I wasn't) and a druggie (an offensive term but I admit to being supportive of Penny and her efforts to date). ;)

soggypie
02-17-2007, 05:03 PM
Penny the F*cking Flame


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/JaseXF/penny.jpg


Ready, able, and willing to put on the fire in your pants from watching her do a scene!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/JaseXF/penny4.jpg


hmmmm tasty :drool:

PennyFlame
02-18-2007, 12:58 PM
HoustonDon, I'd have to agree with ya on the "bad idea" part.....sorry dolphin, my efforts are better combined with the Shanes World theme than in attempting to start something that at least 15 people start each day in the SF valley....besides I could never go up against them, which is what I would be doing if I were to start my own company.....and a porn company? I'd rather be able to pick up and leave whenever I can, no strings attached.....
AND I LOVE THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT SHERWOODS BUSINESS VENTURES.
sorry, pretend I'm yelling that last sentence....I know all caps is kind of obtrusive. offensive even. Well, you know me.
and megs, you are my fav. straight up darling......
Dolphin, thanks for readin about my life, so funny, I never think anybody reads those blogs, and I didn't even think of myself as falling in love until you said so. the things we don't know we know right?
Well, whatever I decide, and wherever I go, I'm stickin with Shanes World, and I'll be working hard on ClubPenny.com so there is always that......kinda like the alamo. But different.....

Houstondon
02-18-2007, 05:43 PM
"AND I LOVE THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT SHERWOODS BUSINESS VENTURES."

I spoke to him at the show when he got into town, standing maybe 30 feet away from you when you were signing for Naughty America (in the back, across from the AVN booth). I mentioned the idea to him (and thanked him for providing such a fine experience last year...cough..) and he thought it was funny too. I expanded the idea and suggested that Blazed and Confused 3 include his business for some cross promotional ideas that ran through my mind after you had me all worked up on that little bed (making the funny faces and pawing me into limping around with a semi for the following hour...lol). You and I joked around about why Shane's World sent Devinn Lane to Jamaica instead of you, as well as pointing out that perhaps a mini-series of titles in Amsterdam might make up for it. ;)

Otherwise, you can yell at me all you want but I've seen you in a lot of titles lately and appreciated each one. Yay you! (feel free to read the reviews on the other part of the website and email comments)

Houstondon
02-28-2007, 10:50 AM
And here is the first review of Penny's new movie:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=26801

(the review is dedicated to Lunch and even has a nod to Art it it for good measure)