Adult Forum To Move in October (Old Thread from 2007)

[XCritic Editor]

All,

Just a quick heads up. DVD Talk is going to be spinning off our adult reviews/news/columns/etc into a new site called XCritic.com. The site is slated to launch sometime in mid to late October.

Part of that site launch is going to be an all new adult forum. With many sub forum areas and.... It'll launch with VB 3.6 which is the new version of the forum.

As always we're currently looking for new writers to help with the adult site:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=492782

And... I'm looking for a few people who want to be adult mods.

So if you're interested in either, get in contact with me.

Can't wait to take the wraps off the new site and have you guys be able to deflower the new forum :)

[shaun3000]

It'll launch with VB 3.6 which is the new version of the forum.Sweet, nerd porn.

You gonna upgrade DVDTalk to the new version, any time soon?

[spainlinx0]

I would love to be a mod. I am power hungry.

[Jobronie]

And... I'm looking for a few people who want to be adult mods. Dasm, on first read, I thought you said "adult models"......

[XCritic Editor]

Sweet, nerd porn.

You gonna upgrade DVDTalk to the new version, any time soon?

The plan is to launch Xcritic and its forum. Test the new forum out on XC and then upgrade the main DVD Talk forum to 3.6 :)

It also looks like we may be able to move all the adult posts and adult posted accounts over so not everyone will have to re-register.

But suggestions are welcome for the new forum in terms of forum areas you'd like to see.

[Quake1028]

So we will have to go to a completely new website to post on the adult forum? Count me out.

[XCritic Editor]

So we will have to go to a completely new website to post on the adult forum? Count me out.

There will be a link from the DVD Talk forum. All you'll have to do is click "Adult Talk" and you'll be transported to that area, which will live on XCritic.com. It'll all be pretty seemless.

A big benefit for adult posters is that since it will be off the main forum the rules on what you can post will be a little more lax :)

[dvd-4-life]

I would like to see a -where are they now -sub-forum.

[greg9x]

Is there that much activity here to warrant it's own website ??
The thing about the 'Adult' subforum here is that you get the rest of the Dvdtalk community here along with the in-jokes, posting styles etc that those people bring.... I think alot of that will be lost. I don't frequent many 'Porn' forums, the Dvdtalk Adult subforum has been ideal to keep up with things of an adult nature without going to a porn only website and the typical crowd that those draw.

I understand that you want to have a new website, but does that necessarily mean the incorporation of the Dvdtalk Adult forum ?

[NORML54601]

I would be interested in being a mod.

[Houstondon]

Is there that much activity here to warrant it's own website ??
That is a question to be answered in the fullness of time. Perhaps all the extra nude pictures will help draw a crowd. ;)

I understand that you want to have a new website, but does that necessarily mean the incorporation of the Dvdtalk Adult forum ?
Given some of the heated debates about the increasing amounts of adult material on DVD Talk, the kind of debates where the vocal minority rattled on endlessly while most said nothing, I would think that a lot of people would welcome the change. I'd propose having a link direct to the new forums from here as a solution to seamlessly assist those who want the best of both worlds but there are still some matters to be decided at this time so we'll see.

[McHawkson]

That is a question to be answered in the fullness of time. Perhaps all the extra nude pictures will help draw a crowd. ;)

So, this site will become another RIP production?

[Original Desmond]

Geoff, i like the little tallying in the adult forum as part of dvd talk

If i wanted to goto a dedicated adult forum there are a billion and one such forums already on the net !

Part of the attraction of adult talk is seeing familiar users from other parts of dvdtalk, i don't think that many people will be bothered going to a whole new forum, i could be wrong

[Houstondon]

So, this site will become another RIP production?
Hardly...

Again, look at this as an experiment that should allow for more adult content in a setting befitting the subject matter. As far as the forums are concerned, all forums are only as good as those who participate in them but the forums aren't the biggest upgrade the site will allow so give it a chance. If you don't like it after trying it out, you can always forgo the many planned giveaways, the extended coverage, and all the other perks of the website...

[ANDREMIKE]

Geoff, i like the little tallying in the adult forum as part of dvd talk

If i wanted to goto a dedicated adult forum there are a billion and one such forums already on the net !

Part of the attraction of adult talk is seeing familiar users from other parts of dvdtalk, i don't think that many people will be bothered going to a whole new forum, i could be wrong


Agreed. Plus I can't surf it at work....

[raven56706]

thank god.... that way my company doesnt block you guys anymore

[IDrinkMolson]

Will the new adult threads show up in searches from the old forum? Or will you have to do it from the new adult site?

Personally, I would rather the adult stuff not show up if you don't want it to. It is safer from my work point of view.

[big whoppa]

I share the same concerns above moving. Personally, I'd prefer to keep things here just because it doesn't mean having to go to another site. But I'll give it a try.

[zombiezilla]

Me too. I'll try it, but this really is the only "adult" forum I check out daily...actually, this is the only "adult" forum that I read at all. If the "new" site is (or becomes) just typical 'net crap, count me out. I do like the fact that others from the "normal" entertainment world (the rest of DVDTalk) participate in the adult forum. I really hope membership doesn't go down.
But I will check it out and let you know how I feel about it a couple weeks after it's up.

[XCritic Editor]

To address some of the questions/concerns.

The adult threads will not show up in searches on DVD Talk. DVD Talk will become 100% safe for work.

All adult stuff will move to Xcritic.com (reviews/features/forum).

I intend to take a personal and active role in managing the new forum, so expect the same things you've come to know and love about DVD Talk and the way we manage the forum here to translate to the new forum.

It's not going to be just another adult internet forum, it's going to be a place where people can talk intelligently about adult topics.

[chanster]

This is the only adult discussion I visit or even post, I'm really not interested in moving to a new forum and won't go there.

Part of the "safety net" of this section is that it is still DVD Talk, a site that have visited for a long, long time. I trust Geoff and the moderators he chooses to keep things on the up and up. But I hear your messages Geoff and guess I will keep an open mind to it.

On the flip side, I understand that Adult material here has been growing exponentially so I can understand the move

[waporvare]

This is the only adult discussion I visit or even post, I'm really not interested in moving to a new forum and won't go there.

Part of the "safety net" of this section is that it is still DVD Talk, a site that have visited for a long, long time. I trust Geoff and the moderators he chooses to keep things on the up and up. But I hear your messages Geoff and guess I will keep an open mind to it.

On the flip side, I understand that Adult material here has been growing exponentially so I can understand the move

The best part of adult talk being a sub-forum here was the fact that it was relatively easy to hide from my wife. :lol: Not to mention the fact that websense and other internet monitoring programs didn't block this.

[porieux]

I only ever read or post in adult talk threads if they come up in the 'new posts' search and look interesting. In fact that is the only way I view the forum, I don't really worry about which section a particular thread is in (sometimes to my detriment, alas). I guess this change will mean I won't be participating any longer, as I guess I'm not really interested enough in the subject to go to a separate place for it. Oh well, I'm sure I will not be missed anyway, my contributions have been minimal at best.

[porieux]

BTW I like the way this is being handled. Very respectful to let people know what is going on.

[Original Desmond]

Part of the fun of this adult form is talking about 'shocking' adult topics with normal people.

If you move to a dedicated adult forum, you end up taking about 'shocking' adult topics with a bunch of perverts, totally different cup of cum um i mean kettle of fish :)

[10-7]

A big benefit for adult posters is that since it will be off the main forum the rules on what you can post will be a little more lax :)
Define "lax".

[Nick Danger]

Define "lax".

I think he's talking about penitration.

[XCritic Editor]

BTW I like the way this is being handled. Very respectful to let people know what is going on.

Thank you. I appreciate your comments.

I strive in every way to run the site with great respect for the people who read it and post to it. Sometimes choices are made that don't have 100% support from all readers and posters, so it becomes my job to address the concerns raised and do the best I can to accommodate the wants and needs of our community.

Some data points to throw in the mix:
- Dell booted us from their affiliate program because of the adult content on our site.
- A recent large advertiser said they were prohibited from advertising with us due to the adult content
- Many posters have reported DVD Talk getting blocked at their workplace because of the adult content.

See a trend?

So when posed with the vision of expanding our adult section, to me the logical move was to make it a separate site.

To that end we're doing a number of things to maintain the same ethos that we have had all along:

- I registered a domain name that while adult sounding won't automatically get filtered (as it doesn't in itself have any adult words in in)
- I'm working on building up the adult forum sections so people can sections to talk about specific things (Adult DVD Review Talk won't be mixed in with Big Jim's Vote For the Hottie Polls and Wont' be mixed in with studio press releases).

Also a benefit to all those of you who come along and try out the new XCritic forum will be a chance to preview the new forum software which ultimately will be here. It will have PM's, Avatars, Blogs and more. So you'll be the first to test drive the new 'forum car'.

Finally, I'm looking to all of you to help me create a great adult forum. A forum is only as good as its members, and I feel what's been created here in the adult talk area is very special. So my hope is that you all will give the new forum a try and help us make it into the forum YOU want it to be.

[jonnyquest]

Will there be a forum dedicated to traders of adult DVD's? The existing DVD exchange forum is so heavily mainstream as to be unusable for anyone interested in adult titles only. And search is no help, search cannot be restricted to a particular sub-forums.

[XCritic Editor]

Will there be a forum dedicated to traders of adult DVD's? The existing DVD exchange forum is so heavily mainstream as to be unusable for anyone interested in adult titles only. And search is no help, search cannot be restricted to a particular sub-forums.

It's a good idea. I don't see why not :)

[Spicollidriver1]

Honestly after reading these posts I do understand some of the negative viewpoints, but I am actually more interested in this now. I don't see why we couldn't make this into a really big subforum, and it should only take like 20 minutes to corrupt it like we all have here.

[Groucho]

Does this mean we can revisit the idea of premium accounts at DVDTalk?

[XCritic Editor]

Does this mean we can revisit the idea of premium accounts at DVDTalk?

I didn't want to promise that, because I've said it's coming so many times I thought the mere mention of it would piss people off. But yes, it's something under consideration :)

[parrotheads4]

Geoff, i like the little tallying in the adult forum as part of dvd talk

If i wanted to goto a dedicated adult forum there are a billion and one such forums already on the net !

Part of the attraction of adult talk is seeing familiar users from other parts of dvdtalk, i don't think that many people will be bothered going to a whole new forum, i could be wrong

I agree. This is the beginning of the end.

[Quake1028]

Will there be a forum dedicated to traders of adult DVD's? The existing DVD exchange forum is so heavily mainstream as to be unusable for anyone interested in adult titles only. And search is no help, search cannot be restricted to a particular sub-forums.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/search.php?searchid=2216738

:hscratch:

[gcribbs]

I figured for awhile that the adult content would end up harming revenues for Dvdtalk so I am glad to see you are keeping the core of adult talk and moving it to a new site. It allows you to grow that aspect of your business without having it harm Dvdtalk.

I have spent a decent amount of time at Dvdtalk and want it to continue to thrive and expand.

I hope the new site works well for you!

I am assuming that those who post here in Adult talk will have accounts opened on the new site for us or do we have to inform you in some way to do this?

I want to make sure my account here stays also :)

Not sure I would make a good Mod due to how busy I am but would be willing to help out if you needed it.

[big whoppa]

Will we need to create a new profile/username or will that transfer over too? And what about status based on postings? Virgin, ladies' man, bitch, whore, slut, Ron Jeremy?

[Nosmo Rex]

I sent you a PM, Geoff. :)

[XCritic Editor]

Will we need to create a new profile/username or will that transfer over too? And what about status based on postings? Virgin, ladies' man, bitch, whore, slut, Ron Jeremy?

I believe the plan is to import anyone who has posted in the adult forum. And I haddn't thought about status' yet. But I like your suggestions.

[jonnyquest]

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/search.php?searchid=2216738

When I click that link, I just get

"vBulletin message
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. "

I just discovered the 'advanced search' option, which allows me to limit my search to a specific forum or sub-forum. So.. the search function is not as useless as I originally thought.

[lordwow]

I'm pro this decision. It's kinda awkward if when you're not blocked at work to see the topics on your subscribed threads or even the main forums page, so :thumbsup:

That being said, any adult site needs a pics and videos boards.

[Michael Corvin]

Geoff, i like the little tallying in the adult forum as part of dvd talk

If i wanted to goto a dedicated adult forum there are a billion and one such forums already on the net !

Part of the attraction of adult talk is seeing familiar users from other parts of dvdtalk, i don't think that many people will be bothered going to a whole new forum, i could be wrong

Yep. Count me out as well. Seems to be the majority opinion anyway. For all the reasons already mentioned.

No offense, but it sounds like you wanted to launch a new site with a built in user base instead of building a new one. And the only way to do that is shut down this one. Sounds lazy and presumptuous to me.

[Houstondon]

Considering this thread is being posted in the Adult forum, I'm not surprised by the responses but even a cursory check of the Feedback forum will show a half dozen (or more) threads about the encroachment of adult content into a variety of areas at DVD Talk this year alone. The opponents of such material have been quite vocal and insistent about the end of the universe as we know it because porn seemed to be taking over the entire website. I know they were wrong and I fought against their cries for protecting their children/jobs/sensitive mental states at DVD Talk but it kept coming up and as much as it might only be a minority of members, there weren't too many people speaking out about how much they liked the adult content mixed in and/or kept here so that probably played a role.

Then, there was the growing advertiser backlash, as it was feared would happen when we started doing porn reviews back in 2002. Over that time, there were companies that shied away from advertising and let G! know; I suspect even more simply passed him up without saying anything. A few bigger companies have issued ultimatums or otherwise found themselves at odds with adult material, a delayed sign of the times but one increasing in frequency across the country, and while porn may be the largest revenue stream for DVD Talk, it doesn't pay all the bills by itself.

There was also unease by those wanting more nudity, explicit content, and freedom balanced against those that were increasingly against it; neither side of the argument willing to accept the happy middle ground G! has provided. In terms of getting companies and performers to join in here, it has been a rough battle too because most of them were attacked (some members claiming it was all a big marketing push unless said performers were willing to spend equal time talking about the latest mainstream DVD, videogame, or political situation). At least a few people in this thread unwilling to check out the new website were asking for free porn when studio big shots were handing it out to the crowd and as the new website will probably have a lot more of that going on; I'd ask again that you at least check it out when we get it up and running.

As far as being presumptuous or lazy, I'd disagree; G! is trying to cater to the consumer membership here. If his announcement were made in each of the other forums asking for feedback, it's likely that a LOT of people would be in favor of the change. I'm still not completely convinced myself but if those who enjoy discussing porn, getting free stuff, seeing more nude pictures, and reading the reviews that have garnered millions of hits want to keep the sense of community alive; they will check out the new website when it goes live next month. Those that only wanted to troll and shock (sorry Des!) might find it an even better place to have fun but the goal is noble so let's give it a chance.

PS: G! and the moderators have received a lot of emails and messages over the years about adult content of one sort or another; much of which was never posted in the forums. Given the totality of the circumstance, it seems reasonable for G! to give the adult material a chance to really grow without the same amounts of restraint that had to be shown. There will still be limits and rules as to what is acceptable but as discussed behind the scenes, a lot more is possible this way.

[XCritic Editor]

Yep. Count me out as well. Seems to be the majority opinion anyway. For all the reasons already mentioned.

No offense, but it sounds like you wanted to launch a new site with a built in user base instead of building a new one. And the only way to do that is shut down this one. Sounds lazy and presumptuous to me.

Lazy and presumptuous? Wow, tell me how you really feel.

The whole focus is towards seamless transition. If people don't want to follow over to the new adult site, more power to them. That's less my concern than making the experience the best it can be for those of you who do.

We're happy to have you on the DVD Talk forum and if you decide the new adult forum isn't for you, we totally respect that. Our job is to make the new adult forum as relevant and useful as possible. Beyond that it's really up to all of you if you want to use it.

But know that the adult talk forum will cease to exist on DVD Talk. And the rules of what you can post in the open forum will not include or permit posting of adult content.

From my perspective the most helpful thing any of you can post is suggestions on what you'd like to see in the new adult forum. If you're out and not interested that's fine, but it's less helpful to have posts calling us lazy and presumptuous (two words which couldn't be further from the reality of the situation).

[funstan]

I would like to see a -where are they now -sub-forum.

That dude from Tesla is now painting signs on the freeway.

[TimeandTide]

From my perspective the most helpful thing any of you can post is suggestions on what you'd like to see in the new adult forum.

I'd like to see interviews with people behind the scenes. I know most stories are star or director driven, but the nuts and bolts (so to speak) of adult filmmaking has always fascinated me.

The L.A. Times runs a weekly feature in their Calendar section focusing on behind-the-scenes workers in Hollywood. For example, they've profiled voice coaches, caterers, musicians, editors, electricians, artists, etc. I'm thinking something similar for adult filmmaking might be kind of cool. (And if something like this already exists, can someone please steer me to it?)

[twikoff]

From my perspective the most helpful thing any of you can post is suggestions on what you'd like to see in the new adult forum.

nude pics of the mods :drool:
and plenty of adult smilies to make my posts more interesting

[XCritic Editor]

and plenty of adult smilies to make my posts more interesting

If you know of any adult smilies, go ahead and email them to me. More than happy to add them.

[XCritic Editor]

I'd like to see interviews with people behind the scenes. I know most stories are star or director driven, but the nuts and bolts (so to speak) of adult filmmaking has always fascinated me.


Great idea. I could interview Gia Paloma, who is now doing makeup for the films. I did a feature on Vivid-Alt which covered some of the BTS stuff:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/adult/blue_room_speci_1.html

We could certianly do more.

- G

[Snowmaker]

Need any reviewers? :D

[Michael Corvin]

Lazy and presumptuous? Wow, tell me how you really feel.

If you're out and not interested that's fine, but it's less helpful to have posts calling us lazy and presumptuous (two words which couldn't be further from the reality of the situation).

:lol: I said no offense, but rereading it, it sounded kinda harsh. I apologize. If this is something that needs to be done to preserve DVDtalk as a whole, then I'm all for it. I'd rather have every other sub-forum than the adult one, which is just a fun one to toil around in like Other.

Maybe I just don't understand why you couldn't leave this forum open and just remove all the adult advertising, links and reviews. Wouldn't that appease the uneasy crowd?

[gcribbs]

:lol: I said no offense, but rereading it, it sounded kinda harsh. I apologize. If this is something that needs to be done to preserve DVDtalk as a whole, then I'm all for it. I'd rather have every other sub-forum than the adult one, which is just a fun one to toil around in like Other.

Maybe I just don't understand why you couldn't leave this forum open and just remove all the adult advertising, links and reviews. Wouldn't that appease the uneasy crowd?

You could but my guess is that some advertisers want no adult content at all. Plus the adult advertisers going away would be a hit leaving Dvdtalk with even less money to thrive.

The only way to make all the non-adult advertisers happy would probably be to eliminate the whole adult forum.

I think allowing the users to move to another website at least attempts to preserve the community and even allows it to grow with even more adult advertising.

Change will always have those who are not happy. Not everyone will support the new website. Some might even leave Dvdtalk in anger for allowing this change.

Most will realize that this is being done to preserve Dvdtalk and expand it to a new website. It might fail ,but why not give it a chance.

I feel that Geoff has always tried to maintain a site that people enjoy coming to on a daily basis.

I for one am hoping this is a success for him.

[XCritic Editor]

Need any reviewers? :D

Yes absolutely. Send me an email.

[zombiezilla]

Well, after having looked around a little, I have found that I much prefer the OLD AdultTalk. I don't like all the different posting categories; I wanted ONE page like the old site, with all the new threads/responses showing up in bold. Instead of scanning through one page, we now have eleven. It reminds me of that horrible spin-off subforum, DVDStalk, which has proved it's irrelevance. It's now a column, as opposed to a subforum, which is as it should be. Horror is just one genre that I enjoy, and I don't want to have to surf through several subforums for each genre; too time consuming, and NOT ENOUGH ACTIVITY WILL BE SEEN IN SOME, possibly negating them.

The lack of a set-up (like this site's) is exactly why I've stayed with DVDTalk so long; it's the absolute best site of it's kind, and no one comes close, because it's well organized, and user friendly.

[XCritic Editor]

"zombiezilla, your comments here simply suck..." - gkleinman, DVDTalk founder

[Houstondon]

Well, after having looked around a little, I have found that I much prefer the OLD AdultTalk. I don't like all the different posting categories; I wanted ONE page like the old site, with all the new threads/responses showing up in bold. Instead of scanning through one page, we now have eleven. It reminds me of that horrible spin-off subforum, DVDStalk, which has proved it's irrelevance. It's now a column, as opposed to a subforum, which is as it should be. Horror is just one genre that I enjoy, and I don't want to have to surf through several subforums for each genre; too time consuming, and NOT ENOUGH ACTIVITY WILL BE SEEN IN SOME, possibly negating them.

The lack of a set-up (like this site's) is exactly why I've stayed with DVDTalk so long; it's the absolute best site of it's kind, and no one comes close, because it's well organized, and user friendly.
Zombie, I look at it another way; as a dedicated website, we can do more, provide you more, and cater to individual tastes more than we could previously.

We established a press release section since some members whined endlessly at performers, company PR guru's, and others who would have the audacity to mention their new products in the adult section (with G!'s permission). That allows people not interested in such notices to skip them. The same holds true for the other sections as well. If some are not popular enough to stay open, we can always merge them back into another forum but if you consider that all early adopters here have the opportunity to make this place more to their liking (without the "panties in a bunch" crowd barking at us), it should be better than ever.

How much more "user friendly" could it be that everyone has a say in transforming this website into a great place to be? Xcritic is still new and we appreciate your input but we (collectively) ask that you give it some time to evolve into the kind of place that DVD Talk has long been known for; a first rate, world class place. :)

[Spicollidriver1]

Well said, and as I mentioned to geoff earlier in the week this just reminds me of when otter split and everyone freaked. I think this is better for both parties in the end.

[big whoppa]

I can understanded where zombie's coming from. There's not enough content for all the subforums. I'd prefer it to be on one page main forum too. Maybe with more activity things will be different.

[Spicollidriver1]

I like it this way because it might entice people to post something that maybe they wouldn't if it was one page. Also it's easier if it's relativly close to how it was envisioned before it got more active and more work moving threads.

[zombiezilla]

"zombiezilla, your comments here simply suck..." - gkleinman, DVDTalk founder

"Wow, tell me how you really feel."

One of the worst things about the site? Small font/red colored "date stamps" on the individual posts. Difficult to make out sometimes; perhaps white letters would be nice.

See you in DVD Talk.

Z out

[Rob Randell]

One of the worst things about the site? Small font/red colored "date stamps" on the individual posts. Difficult to make out sometimes; perhaps white letters would be nice.
Looks fine to me. What's your resolution and monitor size?

[TimeandTide]

Looks fine to me.

Ditto. Looks fine to me as well.

[whitetigeress]

One of the worst things about the site? Small font/red colored "date stamps" on the individual posts. Difficult to make out sometimes; perhaps white letters would be nice.


I have to agree with Zombie. The size doesn't bother me, but the red font is really hard to read. I have a 17 inch monitor and it is still hard for me to read.

[Spicollidriver1]

That seems strange to me because I ahve a 15" laptop and I can see it fine in fact I like how it looks on the page.

[10-7]

I have to agree with Zombie. The size doesn't bother me, but the red font is really hard to read. I have a 17 inch monitor and it is still hard for me to read.

I was just going to say that the color bugs me too, but after going to the "reply to thread" page and scrolling down, I'm going to go with size. The time stamps I'm looking at on this page appear to be the same color but are bolder and much easier on the eyes.

[zombiezilla]

So, uh, how'd the big move work out for ya? Oh, so the last post in this subforum was 2 days ago? Sorry 'bout that.

lol

[zombiezilla]

The lack of a set-up (like this site's) is exactly why I've stayed with DVDTalk so long; it's the absolute best site of it's kind, and no one comes close, because it's well organized, and user friendly.

And now DVDTalk is starting to suck. The best thing about being banned from there, though, is that I no longer participate in pissing matches with idiots who can't grasp a clue, even when it's tossed into their laps. I still read it often, but I don't need (and no longer want) to reply. You'll never change their minds anyway.

Oh, and "Yo, G!", it was awfully childish of you to re-edit your final comments in the thread about removing the "Adult" dropdown menu choice.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=534976&page=2

Your original comment showed some 'nads (when you seemed pissed at IB, and weren't going to take it anymore). And now you look like a baby. :violin:

[zombiezilla]

By the way, can I post a thread about guns here? -snort-

[Spicollidriver1]

Is there a reason you decided to bump this thread, and I am curious if you are ever non-confrontational or is this the only way you can communicate with people.

By the way, no you can't start a thread about guns.

[XCritic Editor]

And now DVDTalk is starting to suck. The best thing about being banned from there, though, is that I no longer participate in pissing matches with idiots who can't grasp a clue, even when it's tossed into their laps. I still read it often, but I don't need (and no longer want) to reply. You'll never change their minds anyway.

Oh, and "Yo, G!", it was awfully childish of you to re-edit your final comments in the thread about removing the "Adult" dropdown menu choice.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=534976&page=2

Your original comment showed some 'nads (when you seemed pissed at IB, and weren't going to take it anymore). And now you look like a baby. :violin:

Old news. Like this thread. I've moved on from DVD Talk. Wish them all the best of luck.

[zombiezilla]

Is there a reason you decided to bump this thread, and I am curious if you are ever non-confrontational or is this the only way you can communicate with people.

By the way, no you can't start a thread about guns.

In order:

I bumped the thread because of "G!" 's micro-rant about not being able to have his little linkie to this place from DVDTalk, and then being so pissed about it that he altered his "final" post about it, and closed the thread, so that no one could reply to it.

As far as being confrontational: only when I feel ripped off & pissed on (don't get too excited, golden shower fans), which "G!" did when he fucked up his own website by starting this one, and NOT DELETING OLD POSTS AND USER INFO. I have said it before, and I'll say it again: I did not sign up for a porn site when I signed up for DVDTalk. I used to enjoy the adult SECTION of DVDTalk, but it was a completely different animal than you have here. I don't want anyone brought here without their express permission, which is exactly what "G!" and crew have done. I think it may even be actionable to get it to stop, unless "G!" can show me in the user agreement I signed electronically that he has the right/option to take an entire sub-forum to another website without any of the participants permission, and even publish them online in a new format which may (or may not) alter the posts' context(s).

Finally...I never bothered to read the new sign-up info (as I was imported here against my will). Hence, it does not apply to me, or any of the others who were shanghaied into being here; legally, it cannnot, Unless you can show me such an agreement, I would think that gun info (or absolutely anything else anyone who came from DVDTalk wants to type) would be completely OK. And I don't even give a shit about guns, though my wife owns one (just one); it is kept unloaded.

IF A USER AGREEMENT WAS NOT "SIGNED" BY A PARTICIPANT, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE "RULES". Not a court in the country would back "G!" up on it. He should know better "after nine years".

No offense, Spicollidriver1, but I will not discuss this with you further; only with "G!". Certainly not with HosedOnDon.

[zombiezilla]

Old news. Like this thread. I've moved on from DVD Talk. Wish them all the best of luck.

Yeah, like when you threatened to get your attorney(s) to see if removing the link to this site from the dropdown menu at DVDTalk was legal. Apparently it was, because it's still gone, and you still changed your post and closed the thread like a whiny bitch before anyone could respond. Sort of an online version of "I'll take my ball and go home".

Kind of like when "HD!" altered MY POSTS HERE and closed the thread.

If you've "moved on from DVD Talk", what the fuck do you care? And, if you've "moved on from DVD Talk", why do you need the old posts/threads/subscribers STOLEN from DVD Talk? To bolster the ad revenue, showing what a huge number of participants you have here? What a fucking joke. And they WERE stolen; the threads in question belong to the owners of DVD Talk, rightfully. Not you.

[zombiezilla]

Wow, apparently people read this shit....and very little else. Over 4K views on this thread alone, and the only other thread to come close is the OTHER thread I contributed greatly to, with over 2500 views. The other threads look to be avering numbers well under 400 views. LOL!

wtf

omg

wajtphti

[Houstondon]

Spicolli and Editor,
I think his temper tantrum is the result of failing to read the DVD Talk TOS and now the Xcritic TOS. "In order":
1) It is my belief that the contract between IB and G! provided for them to keep all links in place. I also believe that virtually no Xcritic forum traffic came from the drop down menu over there so wasting resources on forcing them to restore such a link would be silly.

2) The DT Tos reads as follows:
"By accessing this Site, you accept, without limitation or qualification, the following Terms and Conditions. You are only authorized to use the Site and its services if you agree to abide by all applicable laws and to these Terms and Conditions. If you do NOT accept the Terms and Conditions, then please discontinue your use of the Site." and then goes on to say:
"By displaying or posting content on the Site, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive global license to publish the content submitted by you to the Site. You also grant us global nonexclusive adaptation and resale rights over any content and material submitted to the Site. These nonexclusive publishing license and resale/adaptation rights extend to any materials submitted "for publication" within the Site, including both message board postings and content submitted for uploading and subsequent publishing within non-message board portions of the Site."

3) As soon as he posted in the XC forum, he was bound by the XC TOS:
"By registering, using or reading XCritic Forum account you hereby agree to the following terms and conditions..." He was booted off DVD Talk for breaking the rules and initially suspended here for violating the rules (which he has done several more times by the way). For the record, his continued rant that he was shanghaied, his posts "stolen" or otherwise misused is the result of his own failure to read the rules. He doesn't own exclusive use of what he has posted, IB gave said posts to XC as part of the purchase arrangement, and he has no legal recourse. Our publisher, on the other hand, certainly has the right to transmit his violations to his ISP and get him booted. While he provides some minimal humor at his attempts to play "net lawyer", I find it funniest that for all his "remove me" comments, he keeps coming back for a beating.

Heck, I wonder if he's looked at the number of views some of the more viewed posts have here or realizes that as valued as an active forum may be, it does generate much revenue (neither here nor at DT). Several of the reviews posted in the last week have received more attention than the sum of his XC rants (and this is usually the case), the difference being that the reviews are new while his rants are old, stale, and made over the last year. ;)

Someone put him out of his misery (again). It's sad watching the poor guy flop around so badly.

[XCritic Editor]

Wow, apparently people read this shit....and very little else. Over 4K views on this thread alone, and the only other thread to come close is the OTHER thread I contributed greatly to, with over 2500 views. The other threads look to be avering numbers well under 400 views. LOL!

wtf

omg

wajtphti

I love ya Zombiezilla. And as much as you call me out, you've got to love the freedom to do so. If nothing else your free to vehemently disagree with me. What more can you ask for.

No one is perfect, not you... not me... and it's clear neither of us pretend to be. The whole DVD Talk record is an old and tired one. Aside from pimping XCritic I've pretty much moved on from any involvement there.

I'm happy with XCritic, and if you aren't then that's fine by me. I didn't do all this to please you, although I do think it's nice to give my critics their freedom to voice their dissent.