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Brokeback

12-18-2007, 11:42 PM

Houstondon

12-19-2007, 02:06 AM

As some had predicted, there isn't much activity on these forums since the days of mature talk on DVDTalk. Perhaps dividing the forum into the various subforums is not such a good idea. Other thoughts?

If you keep in mind that all these forums sprang forth from a single sub-forum over there, the numbers aren't that bad at all. I haven't been keeping track but the forums at DVD Talk haven't been very busy as far as I can see and if you figure out that all the porn-related threads never added up to all that much there, we're actually ahead of the game. In big picture news though, the forums have never been the driving force behind the adult content; that being the purview of the reviews and articles, but a slow, controlled growth of the forums makes more sense at this point as well.

On the dividing up the forums topic, G! has said in the past that the number of them are subject to change as needed so he's already dropped one. It's my understanding that the idea is to set the template in place to allow for people to more easily find what they want to find so please forward all ideas on the subject to him. I'd be happy to see the reviewers, bloggers, and other contributors post a little more often than they have as a means to jump start some of the discussions in public rather than the quantities of emails I've been getting bombarded with but 2008 is the key year for that aspect of the website. :)

Ravyn

12-19-2007, 07:35 AM

As with anything thats new it takes time to grow and develop. Given that xcritic has only been live since Oct its grown alot and from what I understand from Don its getting the word out everywhere.. Time and Patience is X-Critic's best friend right now and I see so many good things coming for next year and years after that!

10-7

12-19-2007, 05:09 PM

I've been noticing the "Active Members" number on the forum statistics. It seems to be dropping steadily. I believe it was in the low 800s when I first payed attention to it. It's saying 756 now.

I'm not worried yet. Xcritic is new and I'm sure things will pick up, especially when word gets out that Stoya is posting here. Where is that :drool: smilie from DVDtalk when you need it. :D

XCritic Editor

12-19-2007, 11:32 PM

We expected a change after moving off of DVD Talk and I'm ok with it. The forum will find its path.

Given the volume of posts I did fold in a couple of the subforums and reduced the total # of forums down from when we launched.

But XC is a new thing, so it will take some time. But once it gets going I expect it to really get going.

64 squares

12-20-2007, 06:51 AM

If you count all the spam posts, the forum is hoppin'.

Emahevul

12-21-2007, 02:21 AM

Houstondon

12-21-2007, 05:08 AM

Being one of the newest guys in this forum (and here at HD's urging I might add), I've read multiple times where this is a "new" site. How long exactly has it been up and running? I ask because I see certain forum members with several thousand posts.

Just curious.

Hi Ema!
I'm going to give a short history lesson that I hope you won't find boring but it will explain where we are at better than a two line answer:

Xcritic itself is "new" in the sense that it spun off of DVD Talk a few months ago. Before that, all the forums above were merely a single sub-forum buried deep inside the "other" forum over there. The posts were ported over along with the other adult content to make that website a far more sanitized place; befitting it's new corporate ownership. It's still the best mainstream website for reviews and any internal changes taking place so far have not altered that fact because of the cadre of reviewers driving the engine so to speak.

DVD Talk always had a precarious relationship with adult material though; a fact that led to the formation of ADT years ago (as one of the founding members, I know how it went down despite the revisionist history over there). There had been several adult advertisers that ran banners, including a company some might remember called "DivaDee" that collapsed thanks to poor business decisions during the dot com crunch, and due to a small but highly vocal group complaining; the adult advertisers were essentially run off. This suited some members and some advertisers, but it didn't last for long because of the economic realities as much as G!'s decision to test the demand for adult reviews back in 9/2002 (coincidentally, when I was shown the door at ADT as part of their decision to dumb down the website).

The sole review for over a month was Tera Patrick in Forbidden Tales from Digital Playground; the start up adult review launched ~3.5 years into the formation of DVD Talk. At that point in time, there was a growing number of porn threads and adult topics in the "Other" forum; the "otters" as we're called (I'm one too) showing increasing interest in discussing adult material. It was slow going at first, and on a forum/set of forums containing tens of thousands of members, even when the sub-forum was established, it rarely got as many posts as some here seem to believe unless the extremely rare porn performer made an appearance with pictures (drawing the wrath of the "prude faction" that exists there even today), a troll would instigate some BS (like the infamous Art and his desire for straight porn to include gay sex), or one of the regulars would post pictures (often drawing fire because they might show too much skin, potentially endangering those who couldn't help themselves from clicking like a Pavlovian dog in search of a reward).

I joined up as a reviewer in 12/2002 and you might remember how prolific I have always been in the role; at one point having in excess of 25% of all the reviews at ADT. As the main porn reviewer on a mainstream website (DVD Talk), I became the de facto champion of porn and adult material because that vocal minority wanting segregation of anything offensive such as titties being discussed, wanted it hidden away and/or sent away to a separate website. I stuck with whatever G! was comfortable with and as advertising revenues grew from porn, my voice grew in influence to an extent; my willingness to look at the big picture and look out for his long term interests appreciated time and again over the years when there was even tension from some other reviewers about how the porn made their contributions lesser. They were also in the minority at the website and I've become pretty good friends with some of them since but every time the adult content got favorable treatment, it would rub some people the wrong way (a select few but those that made it a mission to halt progress).

The benefits to porn from being such an accepted part of the best mainstream review website (again, most people liked the way they were treated as adults; allowed to choose if they wanted to see porn titles or not) were legion and elevated the exposure of such content to a far greater audience than a niche website could ever do; this being a huge selling point for DVD Talk too. In essence, unlike the rare coverage of the industry from most media outlets, it was an integral part of DVD Talk until the establishment of Xcritic and I feel that they will be dealing with the repercussions over time that go beyond the loss of advertising and affiliate dollars. For our part though, the loss of the casual observer in the adult forum is part and parcel of the change too.

This has an up side, less complaining about the "whores" and company "shills" by that vocal bunch of malcontents I mentioned earlier as well as the ability to go further in terms of what kind of pictures you see in reviews. The down side is that I don't have nearly as much chance to slap the haters around (always within the rules mind you) using logic and reason; even recently a handful getting their panties in a wad over a censored mainstream box cover that had a few members acting like it was the end of the universe. The other part of the downside is that a significant number of people that didn't mind lurking or occasionally posting in the adult forum have opted out of regularly coming here. I think that will change in time but the holidays have long been a time when certain forums over there have been really slow too; G! taking the approach that "if you build it, they will come". Heck, we're still working on building certain major aspects of Xcritic (a new, improved search engine for reviews; something we never had over there; linking the reviews back to the forum; etc.) so as a work in progress, we've already done more in the last few months than the years prior on some levels.

2008 should be the breakthrough year for the website but our Google results are climbing steadily, we're signing up informed bloggers found no where else, and our forums are more popular than many industry related forums that have been around for years. The illusion of "pins dropping" is as much due to the manner in which the once tiny sub-forum is spread out into a greater number of forums here as anything else but Disneyland wasn't built in a day and you might remember that even at popular adult forums elsewhere (cough), there tends to be a highly vocal element driving the numbers more than a lot of people keeping them afloat. It will be tough for Xcritic to bring in the right kind of crowd but if the alternative is either taking an "anything goes" mentality or the "virtual lockdown" approach where people are banned daily for having an opinion or daring to speak their mind against one of the protected people; I can wait. I'm willing to forgo immediate forum success while the reviews, articles, blogs, and other aspects of Xcritic gain increasing amounts of attention but I still get more emails each day than I can cover and a busier forum will limit how much I can review. ;)

Whew!

McHawkson

12-21-2007, 01:50 PM

I visit here as much as I can, but didn't post as much as I used to - only when I got something to say.

I noticed that we are getting more, more porno actresses in here than we had in DVDTalk. That's pretty cool.

bobert3

12-22-2007, 10:01 PM

Houstondon

12-23-2007, 05:02 PM

That was an interesting history lesson Houstondon. If it wasn't for DVDtalk and my curiousity I wouldn't be one of the many lurkers on this XCritic right now.

I'm sure there are more lurkers here, if they are like me they are the quiet types.
There are a lot of lurkers here and I hope more of them start participating in the forums. Like DVD Talk, participation is the life blood of new ideas and some of our best reviewers were originally forum members. Members also help keep us honest and on track so feedback is greatly encouraged; when the links to email us directly from the reviews are put back up, I hope to see even more input (houstondon@hotmail.com or Don@Xcritic.com work fine) but I enjoy hearing what people have to say even when they completely disagree with me.

McHawkson, thanks again. Performers were often treated poorly at the mainstream website by the people who did not appreciate adult content. Xcritic being devoted to porn and adult content should weed such types out and allow for industry members to jump in more freely and be given a sounding board where they are equals. Stoya has been my favorite but some of the others are showing why they are up & comers too. :)

Oh, and for the two anonymous readers that sent me email about my historical account above in post #8, I'd be more than willing to discuss specifics if you'd like. I was being exceptionally generous due to the holidays in some aspects and my desire to keep Xcritic a place focused on the positive aspects of porn. There are a lot of positive things I could say about a number of people and other websites that I don't get along with but in most cases, the negative things outweigh the positive so I tend to avoid them most of the time unless there's a reason to mention them.

McHawkson

12-23-2007, 07:11 PM

McHawkson, thanks again. Performers were often treated poorly at the mainstream website by the people who did not appreciate adult content. Xcritic being devoted to porn and adult content should weed such types out and allow for industry members to jump in more freely and be given a sounding board where they are equals. Stoya has been my favorite but some of the others are showing why they are up & comers too. :)

Two thumbs up. I agreed that performers are often being mistreated as I have seen in DVDtalk, but we got lot of members (yes, including me. :D) here who's willing to protect performers from being mistreated. :)

Emahevul

12-24-2007, 12:26 AM

Thanks for the background info HD. One question though, who is "G!"?

Houstondon

12-24-2007, 12:42 AM

Thanks for the background info HD. One question though, who is "G!"?

You're welcome Ema! "G!" is the founder of DVD Talk and mystery man behind the scenes here. :)

Emahevul

12-24-2007, 12:56 AM

You're welcome Ema! "G!" is the founder of DVD Talk and mystery man behind the scenes here. :)

Thanks for clearing that up HD.

Shamus McAnally

12-26-2007, 10:34 AM

I'm an active reader, not so much a poster. I have nowhere near the encyclopedic knowledge of others, so I often stay quiet, find out info, and go on my way. I'll chime in now and again (usually if it's an opinion piece), but by and large, I'm a lurker.

Doesn't mean I'm not here often and think highyl of XCritic's forum being a standalone place with more options because of it.

zombiezilla

12-27-2007, 07:44 PM

As some had predicted, there isn't much activity on these forums since the days of mature talk on DVDTalk. Perhaps dividing the forum into the various subforums is not such a good idea. Other thoughts?

Howzabout this one....

TOLD YA!

I look around in here once in a GREAT while, but seldom, if ever, post anymore (hey! here's the exception). There's just not much fun here as compared to the "old" board.

The_Infidel

12-27-2007, 08:52 PM

My sentiments exactly. This site is pretty boring. I lurk more than anything.

Ravyn

12-27-2007, 09:50 PM

You know maybe if those that were constantly complaining how quiet the forums are would participate more and interact in other sub forums it wouldnt be so quiet. I will admit to lurking as well but I do join in and add comments here and there. But if you really want to make the forum active then quit complaining and start chatting it up.. thats all anyone has to do..

The_Infidel

12-28-2007, 12:59 AM

Why would I want to participate in things I find boring? If there was anything here that interested me, not to mention if more than just the same five or six people posted, I might be inclined to post more. Like zombiezilla said, it just doesn't have the same fun feel of the old forum.

Also, speaking strictly for myself, I'm not really complaining. Just stating an opinion. We are entitled to those, aren't we? ;)

Nick Danger

12-28-2007, 05:32 AM

I just read Don's history of the Adult Forum. He dismisses the people who were opposed to enlarging the professional content as trying to 'halt progress.' I think that's unfair. There were a lot of people who were fighting for what they thought was best for the forum. They were happy with the atmosphere of a bunch of friends hanging out and looking at dirty pictures. They felt that if professionals were allowed to come in, make press releases, and leave without contributing any content, it would drive out the people who were there to have fun.

X-Critic 2007 is what they were fighting to prevent. If you take away the posts from professionals who are only here to sell product, and the posts from staff, I'd say that there are fewer than five posts a day.

I'm here because I hope things will improve. But as a user, it's been a tough three months.

Houstondon

12-28-2007, 09:02 PM

Nick, I didn't dismiss ALL of the people who opposed industry people posting in the forums, only the ones that made it their mission to pop up in every thread to drive them out. When one of the industry guests went too far, they were emailed to tone it down within the rules and they did so. The problem for some of these members was that their interpretation of what the porn performers should talk about and how they should participate was not fair. Some of them did post about stuff not related to their movies, websites, or financial endeavors but that showed how silent the detractors could be. If you missed out on just how aggressive some of the detractors were in their quest, I could provide you some highlights as I have done in the past for others...

As far as "X-Critic 2007" as you put it, I took the time to look at how slow several of the forums at DVD Talk have been of late and think XC has done just fine numerically by comparison. DT has almost 100x as many members and a 9 year track record too. Also, remember that this is the time of the year when such participation is down all over the place (Thanksgiving through New Years) and this is truly a start up in many ways. As far as the industry members we have now, I disagree with your blanket statement too since outside a limited few occasions, they have shown a willingness to engage in conversation on a variety of topics; rarely hawking anything. Things will "improve" as people jump in but the best way to improve things is to offer constructive criticism of what you want and to make the place better yourself. Complaining is okay for those unable to come up with anything better but forums become "fun" when the lurkers stop lurking and start making the place more fun in my experience. :cool:

I just read Don's history of the Adult Forum. He dismisses the people who were opposed to enlarging the professional content as trying to 'halt progress.' I think that's unfair. There were a lot of people who were fighting for what they thought was best for the forum. They were happy with the atmosphere of a bunch of friends hanging out and looking at dirty pictures. They felt that if professionals were allowed to come in, make press releases, and leave without contributing any content, it would drive out the people who were there to have fun.

X-Critic 2007 is what they were fighting to prevent. If you take away the posts from professionals who are only here to sell product, and the posts from staff, I'd say that there are fewer than five posts a day.

I'm here because I hope things will improve. But as a user, it's been a tough three months.

TOLD YA!
Zombie, thanks for such thoughtful participation. Hopefully, XC will move past your expectations in 2008.

Why would I want to participate in things I find boring?
Well, maybe to instill your lively sense of wit and jump start the masses into helping you make this even more fun than DT was. Your opinions are welcome, as always, but your jumping in to add something positive would be far more appreciated (as you have in the past). Oh, and the spam thing is far more plentiful than you think; not as easily addressed as you might think. Thankfully, they are almost always in the same forum... ;)

I can't stress enough that XC is on the rise. The numbers on the articles and reviews, the mainstream and industry coverage, and impact the website as a whole has is gaining momentum. I'd like the forums to keep up with the rest of the website in this regard as that is where the readers have the most input as well as give the "staff" and industry types ideas. As stated: "Be the Change you want the website to reflect"... Thanks!

zombiezilla

12-29-2007, 11:45 AM

Zombie, thanks for such thoughtful participation. Hopefully, XC will move past your expectations in 2008.

Thanks for your smarmy attitude.

As for my thoughtful participation, that was given out in excess during the "transition" period (the point from when this site was announced to a few weeks after it had been online). I felt (and still feel) that a succinct response (such as the one you referenced) is all that needs be said at this point, if even that needs to be said.

And as for XC "moving past [my] expectations in 2008", I highly doubt it; I expected very little of this tax write-off called a website, and that's exactly what is here. Very little of any substance. I don't want links to anyone's blogs; I don't want press releases; I just wanted to read (and sometimes participate) in adult-oriented discussions/issues with folks who participate in the rest of the great site I enjoy immensely, DVDTalk. This is not that (anymore).

Aloha.

Houstondon

12-29-2007, 02:37 PM

Thanks for your smarmy attitude.

As for my thoughtful participation, that was given out in excess during the "transition" period (the point from when this site was announced to a few weeks after it had been online). I felt (and still feel) that a succinct response (such as the one you referenced) is all that needs be said at this point, if even that needs to be said.

And as for XC "moving past [my] expectations in 2008", I highly doubt it; I expected very little of this tax write-off called a website, and that's exactly what is here. Very little of any substance. I don't want links to anyone's blogs; I don't want press releases; I just wanted to read (and sometimes participate) in adult-oriented discussions/issues with folks who participate in the rest of the great site I enjoy immensely, DVDTalk. This is not that (anymore).

Aloha.
Zombie, my "attitude" was driven by my take on your response. Though it was lacking in any constructive commentary, I took it for what it was and suggested that the forums will grow in time. It took years to develop DT into what it became so those upset that it isn't the equivalent of "instant gratification" come across as being somewhat short sighted to me. I again suggest that in terms of adult content, XC has surpassed DT in many ways almost out of the gate with the sum total of the forum threads/posts substantially similar to the past during the holidays. They are more spread out and might lack something you are currently looking for, but aside from the possibility of my suggestions to Internet Brands finding a champion, I don't think DT is ever going to offer you much in the way of adult material ever again. If XC ever meets your approval, your limited contributions will still be appreciated though as part of the larger whole; despite quotations of how much your posts "suck" in your sig line. :p

Nick Danger

12-29-2007, 07:28 PM

Nick, I didn't dismiss ALL of the people who opposed industry people posting in the forums, only the ones that made it their mission to pop up in every thread to drive them out. When one of the industry guests went too far, they were emailed to tone it down within the rules and they did so. The problem for some of these members was that their interpretation of what the porn performers should talk about and how they should participate was not fair. Some of them did post about stuff not related to their movies, websites, or financial endeavors but that showed how silent the detractors could be. If you missed out on just how aggressive some of the detractors were in their quest, I could provide you some highlights as I have done in the past for others...

As far as "X-Critic 2007" as you put it, I took the time to look at how slow several of the forums at DVD Talk have been of late and think XC has done just fine numerically by comparison. DT has almost 100x as many members and a 9 year track record too. Also, remember that this is the time of the year when such participation is down all over the place (Thanksgiving through New Years) and this is truly a start up in many ways. As far as the industry members we have now, I disagree with your blanket statement too since outside a limited few occasions, they have shown a willingness to engage in conversation on a variety of topics; rarely hawking anything. Things will "improve" as people jump in but the best way to improve things is to offer constructive criticism of what you want and to make the place better yourself. Complaining is okay for those unable to come up with anything better but forums become "fun" when the lurkers stop lurking and start making the place more fun in my experience. :cool:

That wasn't intended to be a blanket statement, it was intended to be a modifier. I meant: "The pros who are only here to sell product don't contribute," and not: "The pros, who are only here to sell product, don't contribute."

There are certainly members of the industry who are making entertaining and thoughtful posts. I'm glad to have them around.

I thought that Howard was a great member of the old board, and I thought he was unfairly attacked. But there were several people who would do the equivalent of ringing the doorbell to leave a flier on the doorknob. Now there's a dedicated forum for them, and it's the most active spot on the board.

I have no plans to leave here. I do hope that my slow posting rate will be swamped by posts from other people.

Which reminds me: are the join dates and number of posts going to be reset to exclude the time spent on DVD Talk?

XCritic Editor

12-29-2007, 07:44 PM

Which reminds me: are the join dates and number of posts going to be reset to exclude the time spent on DVD Talk?

No I don't plan on reseting imported DVD Talk Accounts.

It's easy to feel like the forum is a continuation of the Adult Talk forum and then get bummed as it's been slow to grow, but the reality is - a good community takes time and so I'm confident that XCritic will find its groove.

greg9x

12-30-2007, 09:59 AM

Well can't say I disagree with the detractors here.... as was my concern also, this place 'lost' the sense of community and fun that was part of the 'Mature Forum'. Seems alot of former regulars don't come here from there, so in that sense this site has become it's own entity...but not necessarily in a good way... you don't see that many "Moving to XCritic" joke replys as you did the "Moving to Mature"...which shows people from there don't think about this site as much.

I hear argument that "There are just as many posts considering....." , but as stated by others: Those post are spread across too many subforums, alot of those post are promotions (not saying spam) by 'industry' people, or by XCritic staff talking amongst themselves.... heck, right now there is a post about a regular non-adult movie (the I am Legend one) that would have been stamped 'Off Topic' previously, but seems like it will stay just because it's traffic here.

I've tried to participate here, but as said earlier...there just isn't that much interesting to discuss here... and it's not due to people having nothing to say, it's the loss of the community spirit of 'Mature Forum' to the more 'Industry' focus of XCritic.

Brokeback

12-30-2007, 08:26 PM

zombiezilla

12-31-2007, 03:07 PM

Houstondon

12-31-2007, 03:35 PM

A few posters have touched on the community aspect of the old forum. Maybe it was the fact that there were people we already 'knew' in one way or another and the sense that we were talking about taboo subjects you couldn't get away with on the other boards. Maybe things will change here in time but the hard core aspect of the new site might make that difficult.
I agree that the change has impacted the dynamic of the forum just as I would point out that the change has impacted the sister website too. Because it has so many more members, so much more time as an established website, and a lot more forums of specific concern, the changes are minimized but it hasn't been that long and already there are revisionists over there trying to suggest the adult content never happened. Further, there are people now upset over bikini shots over there so while the mileage may vary over time (who knows what IB has in store as even now the feedback forum there shows G! pulling away), neither website will be the same.

I think as soon as people participate more, they will come to know one another better and feel more comfortable discussing adult topics. I've seen the numbers of hits some threads have had so I know there are a lot of lurkers but a sense of community won't happen overnight and will require people jumping to post in which is why I have stayed the course. I even agree with Zombie that the forums aren't hardcore though I think there is a lot more nudity allowed these days that was previously the case.

Case in point, we weren't allowed to use nudity in porn title screen captures over there but the average attention a porn review got was much greater than mainstream flicks. Even now, a mainstream title with very limited nudity in the screencaps is far and away the most popular review over there (day in and day out for a long time). It has also been specifically excluded from inclusion on the top ten lists seen by the public; is that a sign of things to come over there? I don't know but I'll still be happily reviewing at both sites as long as it's fun. :)

zombiezilla

01-05-2008, 01:15 PM

http://www.planit3d.com/source/sound_files/cricket2.wav

spainlinx0

01-08-2008, 12:00 AM

I really hope this thing picks up, but man is it dead. I tried posting, and in almost every thread I posted in, I'm still the last person to post in those threads about a week ago. And those threads aren't on another page. Some are still at the top of their sections. You're going to have to get a lot of porn stars posting in the discussion sections if you want to get some membership bumps. And even then I don't think the charm of being the bastard forum of otter will be there.

Brokeback

01-08-2008, 08:24 PM

And as for it being "hard core", that's laughable...it has the same restrictions visually that the OLD site had.

Well, at least review-wise, as a rule, we weren't allowed to show pics of genitalia. People who asked me what the point was then. Not my rule. Which I found to be odd since I saw other graphics which were much more explicit. That rule has since changed on this site though no contact is allowed.

OK. Back to grasshoppers chirping. :)

10-7

02-13-2008, 07:49 PM

We've finally crossed the 6000 member mark. Still keeping my fingers crossed that things will pick up.

BTW, to those responsible for removing the "Active Members" from the forum statistics:
Hey! I was watching that.

:p

XCritic Editor

02-13-2008, 08:40 PM

So after doing some research we discovered that Google penalized us when we switched the urls over to the new site. This is one of the reasons things haven't been as bustling as they were.

We've done some fine tuning and hopefully Google will see the changes and we'll have a fair ranking again. This should result in more forum chatter.

It takes a while for this to happen, but I'm confident we'll see a boost across the board.

BlackSix

02-15-2008, 03:35 AM

This place is more dead than XPT. :p

Seriously, it would be nice if this forum caught on as the other two adult forums both have their problems, this forum is an opportunity to do something different. I think the best place for conversation about porn is on DVDManiacs, but that is focused on 70s classics.

XCritic Editor

02-15-2008, 09:28 AM

We're working on it. Best way to help is.... Tell a friend :)

Tricia Devereaux

02-18-2008, 12:22 AM

We're working on it. Best way to help is.... Tell a friend :)

I have been. :)
I was reading the forum here for the last couple of months, but only just today registered.

TimeandTide

02-18-2008, 10:12 AM

I have been. :)
I was reading the forum here for the last couple of months, but only just today registered.

Welcome to the forum, Tricia!

:D

10-7

02-19-2008, 06:29 PM

We're working on it. Best way to help is.... Tell a friend :)

You want us to tell other people that we like porn? Our friends?:o

Good lord man... People have been killed for less. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg219/10-7/Blink.gif

Guy Incognito

02-20-2008, 12:47 AM

You want us to tell other people that we like porn? Our friends?:o

Good lord man... People have been killed for less. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg219/10-7/Blink.gif

Move the fuck out of Riyadh, then.

03-29-2008, 11:17 PM

The down side is that I don't have nearly as much chance to slap the haters around (always within the rules mind you) using logic and reason; even recently a handful getting their panties in a wad over a censored mainstream box cover that had a few members acting like it was the end of the universe.

Who is the revisionist now? :confused:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=519290&page=1&pp=25

I thought this was too ironic not to point out, to anyone who following the history over at DVDTalk.....but water under the bridge I guess.

Best of luck G.

Houstondon

03-30-2008, 02:00 PM

Who is the revisionist now? :confused:
So you're finally admitting that you were a revisionist previously?!? Thanks! :p

I thought this was too ironic not to point out, to anyone who following the history over at DVDTalk.....but water under the bridge I guess. Best of luck G.
There are still a few people that get upset over covers at DVD Talk. If anyone wants to follow THE ENTIRE HISTORY regarding a handful of malcontents concerning adult material at DVD Talk, they will find the search feature most helpful. The move of the true porn here should have had them dancing in the sheets, though a few of the reviewers over their confessed they wondered if some of the covers in heavy rotation would bring in the howls of whining (asking me to jump on any such posts if it happened).

04-13-2008, 04:31 PM

So you're finally admitting that you were a revisionist previously?!? Thanks! :p

As usual, you try and twist other people's words while completely missing the point.......at least you are consistent in that regard. I'm sure you'll continue to insult people and revise history, but I guess that's what people do when they don't have a legitimate argument. Cheers.

Houstondon

04-14-2008, 04:16 AM

As usual, you try and twist other people's words while completely missing the point.......at least you are consistent in that regard. I'm sure you'll continue to insult people and revise history, but I guess that's what people do when they don't have a legitimate argument. Cheers.
Unlike you, I don't need to revise history or insult people. The most vocal critics regarding adult material at DVD Talk show show themselves to be far less tolerant than I could ever be; the lack of a current thread regarding the latest box covers amazing considering some of them in heavy rotation (perhaps you and the others have come to terms with the idea?!?).

I've let these forums make their own way of late, letting others post most of the time as I worked on other aspects of the website. It gets better with time but the forums have never been, nor are they likely to become, the most important aspects of Xcritic to me since I have more direct communications with those in the industry (and on the fringes) to satisfy my curiosity on matters that pop up.

zombiezilla

04-14-2008, 06:27 PM

....I have more direct communications with those in the industry (and on the fringes) to satisfy my bi-curiosity on, ummm, things that pop up.

fixed

Have some ketchup with THAT, bee-yotch.

04-16-2008, 08:18 PM

....since I have more direct communications with those in the industry (and on the fringes) to satisfy my curiosity on matters that pop up.

Because it's all about you. :rolleyes:

Houstondon

04-17-2008, 07:18 AM

Because it's all about you. :rolleyes:

From a quick read of the thread, I'd have to say it was "all about zombie" more than anyone else. Still, forums are communities where like minded people can go to share information, joke around, and otherwise participate. My comments still stand that the stand alone forum at DVD Talk was never as popular as some of you revisionists have claimed and if you don't like it here, by all means refrain from visiting. As far as it being about me, that was merely an attempt to point out that unlike a LOT of other forums that rely largely on a handful of people posting like crazy, I'd rather Xcritic's forums not be so dependent on a limited number of people such as myself "propping it up" with a dozen+ posts a day. If any of you really want the forums here to be more active, go ahead and start posting about topics people care about; complaining isn't likely to endear people to your cause.

All that said, given IB's low corporate tolerance of adult material, I don't expect them to revise the "old DVD Talk" unless they sell it off as an under performing asset. Accept it or not, that's the reality of the situation at this writing. :p

Spicollidriver1

04-17-2008, 03:10 PM

zombiezilla

04-17-2008, 03:19 PM

This place is a joke. HoustonDon replies to a post I made in a previous thread (which he immediately then closed so that I could not respond to his rudeness). I take a similar jab back at him, and get a reprimand. :rolleyes:

I just got this via PM:

"Dear zombiezilla,

You have received an infraction at XCritic Forum.

Reason: personal attacks are not permitted
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Personal attacks are forbidden on Xcritic.
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This infraction is worth 5 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire."

What a joke. PLEASE kick me outta here, please. :P

zombiezilla

04-17-2008, 03:21 PM

Oh, and by the way, the reprimand came from none other than.....Houstondon. More like FascistDon. OOOOHHH, personal attack, I'm soooo sorry...NOT. I hope your little dick rots off, HD.

Houstondon

04-17-2008, 06:02 PM

Don I totally agree with you but I think we are at the point where eaither you believe it or you don't and there won't be any convincing. By the way do you think you can find an avatar with a bigger ass not sure if that one stands out enough :P

I could switch it to one with Alexis Texas though it seems a "bigger" ass is making some noise too. :p

As someone suggested via PM, the thread has run it's course and if anyone isn't happy here, they are more than welcome to find a more suitable place to play.