Male bisexuality is now hip

[Buford T Pusser]

Werd Bandyoman.

[Mrs. Danger]

Careful when you jump on the pile! Someone just squipped out of the bottom of the pile like a watermelon seed! I think it was Art...

[tenaciousdave]

I fully expected Art to be Lucky Pierre though. You'd think that would give him better traction in the pile.

[art]

I don't see double penetrations (different or same orifices) as gay at all. Put it this way: if two guys can be in each other's presence with full erections and without the slightest desire to have sex with each other, they're not gay. In fact, I would say it's a very heterosexuality-affirming act. The bonding that occurs with such affirmation is akin to that which occurs between men in times of warfare. Think of it as a sexual battle where the tumescent swords are on the same side.

[Buford T Pusser]

I like that. Those guys should get the Purple Heartdon award.

[Mrs. Danger]

Art, have you been watching videos that have psychic subtitles? How do you KNOW the guys aren't really thinking "Damn, when we are through doing this for money, I want to go in the back room and bang this guy!"

[art]

Even Willie Nelson has now gotten into the act.

[maxfisher]

Originally Posted by art

I don't see double penetrations (different or same orifices) as gay at all. Put it this way: if two guys can be in each other's presence with full erections and without the slightest desire to have sex with each other, they're not gay. In fact, I would say it's a very heterosexuality-affirming act. The bonding that occurs with such affirmation is akin to that which occurs between men in times of warfare. Think of it as a sexual battle where the tumescent swords are on the same side.

art, it took long enough, but you finally came up with some imagery I have to put in my signature.

Hilariousness aside, two guys DPing in the same orifice is every bit as gay as it is straight. Getting off to the feeling of both a penis and vagina rubbing against your cock is just as bisexual as if you were taking a dick up the ass while having sex with a woman.

[Lemdog]

Art please, for the love of god, show me some of these message boards.

[Buford T Pusser]

Once someone posted a few of the other message boards where art does this same crap. I'm guessing he's talking about his messages on the other boards.

[Terrell]

Yet the porn industry lags behind, preferring to ban male-male contacts in all the "straight" porn movies it puts out.

Because heterosexual males are by far the largest purchasers of straight porn, or porn in general, and they have no desire to see gay males get it on. Females getting it on is okay, but males would find gay sex a turnoff and extremely uncomfortable, as it would me. Yes, it's definitely a double standard, without a doubt. But that's the way it is. Most males such as myself have no problems with gays in any way. That doesn't mean we want to see them have sex or gay contact. Just as gay mean have no desire to see straight sex.

[wergo]

Originally Posted by Terrell

Because heterosexual males are by far the largest purchasers of straight porn, or porn in general, and they have no desire to see gay males get it on. Females getting it on is okay, but males would turn their stomach, as it would mine. Yes, it's definitely a double standard, without a doubt. But that's the way it is. Most non-homophobic males such as myself have no problems with gays in any way. That doesn't mean we want to see them have sex or gay contact.

Well, no, but it's really just one more thing to fast-forward over. I have no interest in feet, and yet now that's so common that it's not even considered a niche fetish any more. Almost every straight porn title now has at least one scene of someone sucking someone else's feet. I just roll my eyes and hit the FF button. You can't really have made-to-order porn, it's like watermelon; there's always gonna be some seeds to spit out. Heck, even with guy/girl or girl/girl scenes, they're gonna often feature women I don't want to have to lookm at.

Seeing as how straight women don't consume a significant amout of porn, does it matter if they're interested in guy-on-guy action anyway? How is it gonna affect production decisions? (And besides, hiring actors to do each other just means you're gonna have to pay 'em more, and the industry just HATES having to pay guys any more than they have to.)

I am gonna note that there were an awful lot of ads for 'Brokeback Mountain' in Cosmo when it came out, and that the number of tampon commercials on 'Queer As Folk' did have me wondering just what demographic the network was persuing with this. I don't doubt that there ARE a significant number of women who get off on guy-on-guy action, I just have serious doubts that they're gonna seek the entertainment value they so crave through straight porn any time soon. Perhaps the industry might move towards a "one size fits all" aesthetic; discs with scenes for everyone. But it sure seems as if the';re marketing what they have now towards being MORE excusive, not more inclusive.

[riley_dude]

Originally Posted by Terrell

Because heterosexual males are by far the largest purchasers of straight porn, or porn in general, and they have no desire to see gay males get it on. Females getting it on is okay, but males would find gay sex a turnoff and extremely uncomfortable, as it would me. Yes, it's definitely a double standard, without a doubt. But that's the way it is. Most males such as myself have no problems with gays in any way. That doesn't mean we want to see them have sex or gay contact.

But ask yourself why? Most Straight Men love seeing too Woman do it. Is that because they are taught that is ok and man on man sex is not?

[FinkPish]

Originally Posted by riley_dude

But ask yourself why most straight men love seeing two women do it. Is that because they are taught that is ok and man on man sex is not?

Allow me to correct some spelling and puncuation before I respond.

Would you say that homosexuality is somehow taught in the same way? I have never seen any evidence that enjoying a specific act is somehow a learned thing. I never had anyone or anything specifically teach me that lesbian sex was good and gay sex was bad; it was just a preference.

[wergo]

Originally Posted by riley_dude

But ask yourself why? Most Straight Men love seeing too Woman do it. Is that because they are taught that is ok and man on man sex is not?

Isn't that the tail wagging the dog? It's because I'm turned on by women and not men that I define myself as straight, not the other way around.

No one taught me not to like strawberry ice cream or country and western music either; I just don't. I'm not interested in buying neopolitan ice cream knowing that I'm just gonna leave the strawberry untouched, and I have little interest in buying the remastered edition of Elvis Costello's 'Almost Blue' album. That's time and money better spent on uncontaminated chocolate and rock music.

[wergo]

Originally Posted by FinkPish

Would you say that homosexuality is somehow taught in the same way? I have never seen any evidence that enjoying a specific act is somehow a learned thing. I never had anyone or anything specifically teach me that lesbian sex was good and gay sex was bad; it was just a preference.

Not even just acts (aren't they pretty much the same regardless of gender?); the straight porn industry has tried valiently lo these many years to teach me to be attracted/aroused by tall blonde women with fake boobs that look like bowling balls. It still hasn't worked. Some stuff is just innate and can't be taught.

[Mrs. Danger]

I'm still trying to recover from the idea of "tumescent swords"

[ilmmtaitw1]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Danger

I'm still trying to recover from the idea of "tumescent swords"

What's that?

[Buford T Pusser]

I only managed to find a few references to this:


“We remain firm in our anticipation of a forceful and satisfying climax to this campaign against the evil ones. Our tumescent swift swords are unsheathed and at the ready, and we will stay the course,” said Wanker. “We have the rod, and our eager hands are upon it, and we shall not spoil the child.”




Vowing to “unleash the tumescent justice of my trembling swift sword,” Bush promised the children that his policies would banish evil from the world, increase life expectancy, improve crop production, make their parents love them, bring democracy to ant farms and aquariums, and stop horrible monsters from hiding under the beds and in the closets of innocent American children.



so there you go

[big whoppa]

Main Entry: tu·mes·cent
Pronunciation: -'mes-&nt
Function: adjective
: somewhat swollen


Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc


The bonding that occurs with such affirmation is akin to that which occurs between men in times of warfare. Think of it as a sexual battle where the tumescent swords are on the same side.

Thank art for the vocabulary lesson and great metaphor.

[Mrs. Danger]

How do you keep an edge on that?

[logrus9]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Danger

How do you keep an edge on that?

By stroking it on a whetstone.

[MartinBlank]

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=20317

You'll go blind art.

[big whoppa]

Originally Posted by MartinBlank

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=20317

You'll go blind art.

A Bi title with the emphasis on bi. I think art wants man on man action in a straight movie.

[Buford T Pusser]

This new title must be the talk of all the other internet forums!