PIRATES...is it all hype??

THEES VAN KEMP · 07-16-2006, 10:57 PM

:helpme: G'day

Can anybody tell me if Pirates (starring Janine, Devon, Carmen Luvanana, Jesse Jane) is worth the money?......The 2 disc set is retailing in Australian Adult stores for A$100.00, that's $75.00 in U.S Dollars!! the second DVD is just a high definition disc...apart from that it's the same movie,....
I've read plenty on the web and in X films trade mags about this film which appears to be as hyped as the best movie ever put on celluloid since 'Gone with the Wind', winning reviews for practically every category they can think of giving awards to.,....yes I know it's got talent and great tropical locations....but at the end of the day it's just a 'fuck film'...., I get suspicious about anything that's overhyped.....

thanks

Frankenlola · 07-17-2006, 03:46 AM

Look down the very same page and you will see a thread title "Pirates."

THe first page of this thread should answer your questions.
$75 seems a bit much to me.

And just ignort any posts you see from sombody names "art"

tamilthavalai · 07-17-2006, 03:20 PM

thanks

RawisJericho · 07-17-2006, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon-w9

And just ignort any posts you see from sombody names "art"

Gay porn is awesome

Giles · 07-17-2006, 08:24 PM

what's wrong with the Region 1 release that according to TLA has three discs and sells at 35 bucks:

Pirates

Houstondon · 07-23-2006, 08:47 AM

"I've read plenty on the web and in X films trade mags about this film which appears to be as hyped as the best movie ever put on celluloid since 'Gone with the Wind', winning reviews for practically every category they can think of giving awards to.,....yes I know it's got talent and great tropical locations....but at the end of the day it's just a 'fuck film'...., I get suspicious about anything that's overhyped"

Always remember to compare genre to genre; just as you wouldn't reasonably compare the sex of the mainstream Pirates of the Carribean starring Mr. Depp to a porno, it wouldn't be fair to compare Joone's Pirates (made on a budget consisting of less than 1% of the mainstream hit) to a mainstream ultra-budget Hollywood release.

As far as the criticism towards Pirates as a porno, keep in mind that it's a feature fuck flick, not a gonzo knocked out in a weekend as most porn is handled these days. Again, compare it to other contemporary feature porn and it really does stand out in many areas though the lack of circus act sex may put off those wanting something "different".

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=18503 Pirates: Collector's Edition

NORML54601 · 07-23-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RawisJericho

Gay porn is awesome

Well duh. It's straight porn that needs more man-on-man action.

THEES VAN KEMP · 07-24-2006, 07:46 PM

Re: Pirates
Thanks for your comments Don Houston, You do have a point there.....,just because it's a porno it shouldn't be belittled, it is after all a 'glossy', expensive production
and a hell of a lot of time and sweat has been poured into it
I guess the price has been the issue for some 'Strokers' down here in Australia, and the fact that you must pay for two dvds if you want to own the DVD at all, since it's only sold as a 2dvd set.
But the talent is awesome: Luvana, Devon, Jesse Jane.....has it been released in VHS in a cheaper VHS format?.

Frankenlola · 07-25-2006, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEES VAN KEMP

Re: Pirates
Thanks for your comments Don Houston, You do have a point there.....,just because it's a porno it shouldn't be belittled, it is after all a 'glossy', expensive production
and a hell of a lot of time and sweat has been poured into it
I guess the price has been the issue for some 'Strokers' down here in Australia, and the fact that you must pay for two dvds if you want to own the DVD at all, since it's only sold as a 2dvd set.
But the talent is awesome: Luvana, Devon, Jesse Jane.....has it been released in VHS in a cheaper VHS format?.

Out Blasphemer, back to VHStalk with your vile ideas!
Anyway, it would seem I appear to be a Pirates basher, and I am not. I do actually own the film. I just don't find it to be "great porn" but it is very good and I did enjoy it. Like stated above, it is production porn meant to appeal to a different audience. Probably one that has not been quite so jaded by the plethora of internet porn that abounds. No anal = No sale!

Houstondon · 07-25-2006, 11:41 AM

Thes, you're welcome. To be fair, I haven't seen a tape in so long that I doubt Digital Playground makes them anymore. You can always use a coupon, find a sale, or find someone selling a used copy to lower the price. The version here is a 3 disc set so you can imagine that it's not cheap here either.

Jon, I understand where you're coming from about being jaded; I do tend to watch a bit of porn after all.

As a fun feature porn though, it was great for the intended audience and I think that was where all the hype came from (porn industry trade groups almost always seem to elevate the status of EVERYTHING as the next big title, as do the reviewers for websites selling product but too many independent reviewers have found it to their liking to be completely dismissive of the movie as strictly a fluff piece). I thought the anal between Jesse and Janine was pretty darned hot. I'm not enamored with anal as a "must have" act any more than interracial, facials, or foot fetish but for a specific viewer's needs, I can fully understand their wanting certain things in a movie. Heck, if Art were to write the screenplay for the sequel, it'd be called "Pirates 2: The Booty Bandits" and have a bunch of male on male action.

nycdude · 07-27-2006, 06:29 AM

I've actually seen the "R" copies at BB. I gues they removed all the sex stuff.

Subgeniusguy · 07-28-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nycdude

I've actually seen the "R" copies at BB. I gues they removed all the sex stuff.

Rated Arrr! Thank god, all that bothersome sex takes away from the great acting and plot development.

xage · 08-21-2006, 12:37 PM

I Just Got it for $38 (tax and shipping Included) from www.dvdexplorer.com

Da Punisher 611 · 08-21-2006, 03:06 PM

i just purchased it today...havent had a chance to watch it yet. but from the reviews its been getting i believe it lives up to the hype.

TimeandTide · 08-22-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Da Punisher 611

i just purchased it today...havent had a chance to watch it yet. but from the reviews its been getting i believe it lives up to the hype.

Post your thoughts here. I've been eyeing Pirates as well.

xage · 08-22-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TimeandTide

Post your thoughts here. I've been eyeing Pirates as well.

I recently bought it, and recently viewed it...

All I can say is that from the packaging, to the special features and the Movie itself... Its worth every single bit!

paulringodaman · 08-23-2006, 06:08 PM

wow that packaging is like the LOTR EE set....!!!

Jerrycurl · 08-24-2006, 10:57 AM

I watched this last night with my girlfriend. She got pretty impatient and eventually started fast forwarding once it had been 20 minutes without a sex scene. The production values were pretty high, and the sets and costumes were on par with a direct-to-video "real" movie. The acting, however, was *awful*. Even if all the sex scenes were cut out, you would be able to tell it was a porno just from the horrible acting. The only actor that didn't completely suck was the main hero guy who seemed to realize he was in a goofy porno and did a shameless Zapp Brannigan impersonation throughout. The sex scenes were fine, but nothing to stand out from most other movies. All in all, not bad for a porno (if you don't mind fast forwarding a lot to get to the good stuff), but in no way the "real movie that happens to have hardcore sex in it" as some are describing it.

cungar · 08-24-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrycurl

The acting, however, was *awful*. Even if all the sex scenes were cut out, you would be able to tell it was a porno just from the horrible acting.

Has there ever been a porn film with good acting?

What were you expecting, Masterpiece Theatre?

Shannon Nutt · 08-24-2006, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrycurl

The only actor that didn't completely suck was the main hero guy who seemed to realize he was in a goofy porno and did a shameless Zapp Brannigan impersonation throughout.

Evan Stone. He's widely considered to be one of the best two or three actors in porn (meaning he can ACT, not just perform sexually).

Quote:

Originally Posted by cungar

Has there ever been a porn film with good acting?

Yes, one of the misconceptions is that ALL adult features have lame acting. Kind of like people who still think soap operas have nothing but bad acting in them...there are SOME adult movies with decent performances. Probably is, the decent performances in porn are almost always surrounded by a few bad ones.

Go rent some of the movies directed by Nic Andrews like RUSH, NO LIMITS and DARK ANGELS...you'll be impressed.

Jerrycurl · 08-24-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cungar

Has there ever been a porn film with good acting?

What were you expecting, Masterpiece Theatre?

No, but I guess I was expecting better than I got. There's been a lot of hype (see the title of this thread) about how this movie is above and beyond your normal porn. With all the money and work that went into the production, I assume that you're actually supposed to watch the stuff between the naughty parts. But the wooden, cringe-inducing delivery of the lines makes it pretty difficult.

Shannon Nutt · 08-25-2006, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrycurl

No, but I guess I was expecting better than I got. There's been a lot of hype (see the title of this thread) about how this movie is above and beyond your normal porn. With all the money and work that went into the production, I assume that you're actually supposed to watch the stuff between the naughty parts. But the wooden, cringe-inducing delivery of the lines makes it pretty difficult.

I think the majority of people were referring to the production values, not the acting quality. Personally, I think Wicked Pictures' SPACE NUTS is still better in quality than PIRATES, and it was made a few years back. PIRATES just got marketed better, so that's why more people are aware of it.

art · 08-27-2006, 04:45 PM

What do you expect from porn performers? I don't want to sound harsh but aren't most of them living on a diet of drugs and alcohol?

07-16-2006, 10:57 PM	#1
THEES VAN KEMP Cool New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 18	PIRATES...is it all hype?? :helpme: G'day Can anybody tell me if Pirates (starring Janine, Devon, Carmen Luvanana, Jesse Jane) is worth the money?......The 2 disc set is retailing in Australian Adult stores for A$100.00, that's $75.00 in U.S Dollars!! the second DVD is just a high definition disc...apart from that it's the same movie,.... I've read plenty on the web and in X films trade mags about this film which appears to be as hyped as the best movie ever put on celluloid since 'Gone with the Wind', winning reviews for practically every category they can think of giving awards to.,....yes I know it's got talent and great tropical locations....but at the end of the day it's just a 'fuck film'...., I get suspicious about anything that's overhyped..... thanks

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Frankenlola Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Pornotopia Posts: 5,698	Look down the very same page and you will see a thread title "Pirates." THe first page of this thread should answer your questions. $75 seems a bit much to me. And just ignort any posts you see from sombody names "art"

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Giles DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Washington DC Posts: 17,750	what's wrong with the Region 1 release that according to TLA has three discs and sells at 35 bucks: Pirates

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Houstondon XCritic Reviewer Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,879	"I've read plenty on the web and in X films trade mags about this film which appears to be as hyped as the best movie ever put on celluloid since 'Gone with the Wind', winning reviews for practically every category they can think of giving awards to.,....yes I know it's got talent and great tropical locations....but at the end of the day it's just a 'fuck film'...., I get suspicious about anything that's overhyped" Always remember to compare genre to genre; just as you wouldn't reasonably compare the sex of the mainstream Pirates of the Carribean starring Mr. Depp to a porno, it wouldn't be fair to compare Joone's Pirates (made on a budget consisting of less than 1% of the mainstream hit) to a mainstream ultra-budget Hollywood release. As far as the criticism towards Pirates as a porno, keep in mind that it's a feature fuck flick, not a gonzo knocked out in a weekend as most porn is handled these days. Again, compare it to other contemporary feature porn and it really does stand out in many areas though the lack of circus act sex may put off those wanting something "different". http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=18503 Pirates: Collector's Edition

07-24-2006, 07:46 PM	#8
THEES VAN KEMP Cool New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 18	Re: Pirates Thanks for your comments Don Houston, You do have a point there.....,just because it's a porno it shouldn't be belittled, it is after all a 'glossy', expensive production and a hell of a lot of time and sweat has been poured into it I guess the price has been the issue for some 'Strokers' down here in Australia, and the fact that you must pay for two dvds if you want to own the DVD at all, since it's only sold as a 2dvd set. But the talent is awesome: Luvana, Devon, Jesse Jane.....has it been released in VHS in a cheaper VHS format?.

07-25-2006, 11:41 AM	#10
Houstondon XCritic Reviewer Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,879	Thes, you're welcome. To be fair, I haven't seen a tape in so long that I doubt Digital Playground makes them anymore. You can always use a coupon, find a sale, or find someone selling a used copy to lower the price. The version here is a 3 disc set so you can imagine that it's not cheap here either. Jon, I understand where you're coming from about being jaded; I do tend to watch a bit of porn after all. As a fun feature porn though, it was great for the intended audience and I think that was where all the hype came from (porn industry trade groups almost always seem to elevate the status of EVERYTHING as the next big title, as do the reviewers for websites selling product but too many independent reviewers have found it to their liking to be completely dismissive of the movie as strictly a fluff piece). I thought the anal between Jesse and Janine was pretty darned hot. I'm not enamored with anal as a "must have" act any more than interracial, facials, or foot fetish but for a specific viewer's needs, I can fully understand their wanting certain things in a movie. Heck, if Art were to write the screenplay for the sequel, it'd be called "Pirates 2: The Booty Bandits" and have a bunch of male on male action.

07-27-2006, 06:29 AM	#11
nycdude Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 392	I've actually seen the "R" copies at BB. I gues they removed all the sex stuff.

08-21-2006, 03:06 PM	#14
Da Punisher 611 Cool New Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 27	i just purchased it today...havent had a chance to watch it yet. but from the reviews its been getting i believe it lives up to the hype.

08-24-2006, 10:57 AM	#18
Jerrycurl Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 77	I watched this last night with my girlfriend. She got pretty impatient and eventually started fast forwarding once it had been 20 minutes without a sex scene. The production values were pretty high, and the sets and costumes were on par with a direct-to-video "real" movie. The acting, however, was awful. Even if all the sex scenes were cut out, you would be able to tell it was a porno just from the horrible acting. The only actor that didn't completely suck was the main hero guy who seemed to realize he was in a goofy porno and did a shameless Zapp Brannigan impersonation throughout. The sex scenes were fine, but nothing to stand out from most other movies. All in all, not bad for a porno (if you don't mind fast forwarding a lot to get to the good stuff), but in no way the "real movie that happens to have hardcore sex in it" as some are describing it.

08-27-2006, 04:45 PM	#23
art Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 505	What do you expect from porn performers? I don't want to sound harsh but aren't most of them living on a diet of drugs and alcohol?

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